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in the 1930s president franklin delano

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chats his aim was to reassure the common

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for a new era of worldly frustration we

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i'm greg carlwood and these are the

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what a world higher side chatters from

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sunny san diego i'm greg carlwood and

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something tells me reality is a lot

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weirder than the monotonous jobs freeway

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traffic and mind-numbing entertainment

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were served up most days

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and if you look deeper into your cities

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and towns it seems that the statues

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monuments and park layouts often provide

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the evidence that someone seems to know

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a little something about energy

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intention and symbolism

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and as surprising as it is to me that

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the planning of such esoteric layouts

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it's just as curious that ancient stone

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magnetic anomalies and an intimate

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whether some of these portal places and

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one of these hot spots is most likely

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well today's guest chad stemke knows

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these things all too well as he's been

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investigating urban portals

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energy anomalies and sacred landscapes

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star gates temples and sacred mounds of

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the culmination a catalyst for change

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and most recently stargate detroit

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transcending the gateways to freedom you

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the herbal portal place plotter sacred

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of modern mystical cities chad my man

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welcome to the higher side

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ah greg man i'm humbled thank you for

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the introduction i

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can't tell you how much i appreciate it

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appreciate the invite

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ah i try man and thank you for being

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i wouldn't have thought it when i

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started the show but some of my favorite

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louis missouri it is fascinating stuff

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do how do you describe it well my

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match these ancient sites and sometimes

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what were already once pieces of sacred

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sacred landscapes were and trying to

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many of these things have been

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try to decode everything but when you're

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all us individual guys have done a lot

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of hard work decoding these places

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and now i think we got to try to figure

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out you know what does this all

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mean because there's a lot of

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you know i think it's going to take a

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lot of people and you know i call on

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everybody out there you know

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find these places and these are places

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we can all go

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hopefully get together and

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figure something out what's actually

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going on well cheers to that and that's

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a great

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sales pitch for esotericamerica.com with

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a researcher in every state

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taking care of their page i would love

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to see that website

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and we have all sorts of odd statues and

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monuments that we just pass by

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in most of our major cities but there's

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oftentimes a lot of intention

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put behind why specific things are in

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specific places

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it's wild when you start looking deeper

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at all of it but

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what were some of the first things that

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you noticed what were some of the first

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threads you started to pull on that took

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well see like i got really started in

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detroit i was living in downtown detroit

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walk my dogs and skateboard at this

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park called heart plaza for years and

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at one point when i turned 30 i had a

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that's when i got into the ancient

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i realized that this park i used to

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always go to or still went to was built

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over top of what was an ancient mountain

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i decided to go walk around the park and

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start reading some of the signs on the

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honest walking around smoking a joint

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reading the signs and stuff just started

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coming to me

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and that was the beginning you know one

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monument was the transcending gateway

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another monument was a horus and sun

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monument that

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said it was the engine of water at the

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gateway to a great city

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calling hart plaza gateway and you know

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in a matter of a week

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i had found so much symbolism in this

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one plaza

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that i had never recognized after years

298
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of going there

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and it just took me to take the time and

300
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you know open my eyes and

301
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do a little bit of research and this

302
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park took on a whole new life that i had

303
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never witnessed before that that's a

304
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great summary in your book stargate

305
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detroit

306
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you write a little bit about the history

307
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of the city and how it got the

308
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unfortunate name murder city

309
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for a while and then they tried to

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revitalize the city

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in the 70s by building this big complex

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called

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the renaissance center and a bunch of

314
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new parts that you call the hub of

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symbolism this heart plaza you're

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talking about

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which you say was built to be aligned

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and correlated to the giza pyramids as

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well as the stars

320
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what more can be said about that and at

321
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least these attempts to

322
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change the energy of detroit at the time

323
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yeah well the artist who came and built

324
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this plaza in 1974

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is a japanese american artist and sama

326
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naguchi

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and one of the very first things i

328
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recognized when i started doing a little

329
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research on this plaza

330
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was when you looked down from the aerial

331
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view or a bird's eye perspective you

332
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know on google earth

333
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or something that the layout of the park

334
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was identical to the layout of the giza

335
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plateau

336
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several of the main monuments the

337
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amphitheater the horse and sun fountain

338
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and a pyramid all aligned and were

339
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correlated exactly

340
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like the pyramids in giza and there was

341
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even a pathway

342
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just like the pathway leading to the

343
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sphinx only this pathway led to a giant

344
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obelisk

345
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so you know it almost seemed too good to

346
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be true

347
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so i started doing some research on the

348
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artist and sure enough

349
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he had just returned from egypt he had

350
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been in egypt

351
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for a year or so on a soldier and as he

352
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called it and

353
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he was super interested in the

354
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relationship the egyptians had with

355
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their pyramids

356
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and when he came back to america the

357
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very first opportunity he had to

358
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build a park he built hart plaza

359
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and coincidentally or not it happens to

360
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be correlated

361
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just like the giza pyramids now

362
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i always like to point out this is

363
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nineteen seventy four

364
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so robert bruval's orion correlation

365
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was never heard of this was you know

366
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twenty years before anybody

367
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heard of aligning pyramids to the stars

368
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so i always point out did naguchi get

369
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this information

370
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when he was on a soldier or did he come

371
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here after being on a soldier

372
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and come to this special location and

373
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get a possible subconscious download of

374
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this information and

375
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you know i know that sounds out there

376
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greg but i only

377
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bring that up because of a previous art

378
00:12:48,710 --> 00:12:45,279
project he

379
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proposed to do back in 1947

380
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and he had this other idea that he was

381
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going to create an earthen structure

382
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and it was going to be called the face

383
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to be seen from mars

384
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and it was going to be huge two miles

385
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wide by a mile long

386
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have a pillar of a nose that was a mile

387
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tall

388
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and only be recognizable from as far

389
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away as the moon or

390
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mars and his intentions were if

391
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we were to destroy ourselves in a

392
00:13:17,829 --> 00:13:15,519
nuclear holocaust this is back in 1940s

393
00:13:20,550 --> 00:13:17,839
that the martians or an outside alien

394
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civilization one day would recognize

395
00:13:24,629 --> 00:13:23,279
that there at one time was life on

396
00:13:26,790 --> 00:13:24,639
planet earth

397
00:13:29,590 --> 00:13:26,800
you know and a pretty crazy idea of

398
00:13:32,470 --> 00:13:29,600
course it's 1947 but then

399
00:13:33,670 --> 00:13:32,480
30 years later we all know nasa sends

400
00:13:36,949 --> 00:13:33,680
back images that

401
00:13:38,470 --> 00:13:36,959
appear to have a face on mars

402
00:13:41,189 --> 00:13:38,480
and you know i tell you what when you

403
00:13:43,430 --> 00:13:41,199
put these two images of the gucci's

404
00:13:44,550 --> 00:13:43,440
vision of a face to be seen for mars

405
00:13:47,509 --> 00:13:44,560
next to

406
00:13:48,790 --> 00:13:47,519
what may be a face on mars i mean

407
00:13:52,150 --> 00:13:48,800
symbolically

408
00:13:54,470 --> 00:13:52,160
they're almost identical and you know

409
00:13:56,150 --> 00:13:54,480
naguchi was concerned about nuclear

410
00:13:58,710 --> 00:13:56,160
holocaust and we have dr

411
00:13:59,910 --> 00:13:58,720
john brandenburg talking about this face

412
00:14:02,230 --> 00:13:59,920
on mars and a possible

413
00:14:04,550 --> 00:14:02,240
nuclear holocaust on mars due to some

414
00:14:07,670 --> 00:14:04,560
studies on the isotope so

415
00:14:08,550 --> 00:14:07,680
did niguchi get this download you know

416
00:14:10,790 --> 00:14:08,560
once again

417
00:14:11,590 --> 00:14:10,800
previous to it being discovered so

418
00:14:13,750 --> 00:14:11,600
that's the only

419
00:14:15,189 --> 00:14:13,760
way i say it could be subconscious that

420
00:14:16,870 --> 00:14:15,199
he aligned

421
00:14:18,550 --> 00:14:16,880
heart plaza to the pyramids and the

422
00:14:20,230 --> 00:14:18,560
constellation of orion

423
00:14:23,110 --> 00:14:20,240
or it could be intentional i don't know

424
00:14:26,550 --> 00:14:23,120
for sure but either way we have this

425
00:14:27,670 --> 00:14:26,560
really cool temple plaza aligned to the

426
00:14:29,590 --> 00:14:27,680
pyramids

427
00:14:31,430 --> 00:14:29,600
and it has all kinds of egyptian

428
00:14:31,990 --> 00:14:31,440
symbolism say one of the pyramids is

429
00:14:34,150 --> 00:14:32,000
actually

430
00:14:35,269 --> 00:14:34,160
aligned to a pyramid at heart plaza so

431
00:14:36,949 --> 00:14:35,279
you know you don't gotta look too far

432
00:14:39,110 --> 00:14:36,959
for the symbolism there

433
00:14:41,269 --> 00:14:39,120
the other monument to align to the

434
00:14:44,310 --> 00:14:41,279
center pyramid is called the horus

435
00:14:46,949 --> 00:14:44,320
and sun fountain and this is dedicated

436
00:14:47,829 --> 00:14:46,959
to horus dodge the automobile pioneer

437
00:14:49,670 --> 00:14:47,839
but you know

438
00:14:51,110 --> 00:14:49,680
we can probably use it still horse and

439
00:14:53,030 --> 00:14:51,120
sun and

440
00:14:54,310 --> 00:14:53,040
coincidentally his son's name was horus

441
00:14:56,790 --> 00:14:54,320
jr

442
00:14:58,710 --> 00:14:56,800
so you know egyptian mythology there was

443
00:15:01,750 --> 00:14:58,720
in instances a horace the elder

444
00:15:04,150 --> 00:15:01,760
and a horsty son or a horse junior

445
00:15:04,949 --> 00:15:04,160
so you know there is a kind of this

446
00:15:07,990 --> 00:15:04,959
egyptian

447
00:15:10,790 --> 00:15:08,000
symbolism and not only

448
00:15:12,069 --> 00:15:10,800
is this fountain like i said dedicated

449
00:15:14,550 --> 00:15:12,079
to horus the sun

450
00:15:15,990 --> 00:15:14,560
and horse the elder but if you get a

451
00:15:17,430 --> 00:15:16,000
chance to go to my website and look at

452
00:15:21,269 --> 00:15:17,440
the shape of the fountain

453
00:15:24,069 --> 00:15:21,279
symbolically

454
00:15:25,750 --> 00:15:24,079
to the egyptian goddess knew it who was

455
00:15:28,310 --> 00:15:25,760
the sky goddess and

456
00:15:29,990 --> 00:15:28,320
in some cases she was the mother to isis

457
00:15:33,430 --> 00:15:30,000
osiris nepati set

458
00:15:35,269 --> 00:15:33,440
and horus the elder so

459
00:15:36,870 --> 00:15:35,279
you know in this one fountain sama

460
00:15:38,470 --> 00:15:36,880
naguchi

461
00:15:40,710 --> 00:15:38,480
had this fountain aligned to the center

462
00:15:41,509 --> 00:15:40,720
pyramid it contains all this egyptian

463
00:15:43,430 --> 00:15:41,519
symbolism

464
00:15:46,069 --> 00:15:43,440
the goddess knew it her whole family

465
00:15:48,550 --> 00:15:46,079
horse the sun horus the elder

466
00:15:50,230 --> 00:15:48,560
and was this all intentional or

467
00:15:53,509 --> 00:15:50,240
subconscious i cannot say

468
00:15:54,550 --> 00:15:53,519
he never mentioned any of the symbolism

469
00:15:56,389 --> 00:15:54,560
in any of his

470
00:15:57,670 --> 00:15:56,399
interviews i've read every interview and

471
00:15:59,350 --> 00:15:57,680
every book he's put out

472
00:16:01,590 --> 00:15:59,360
and nowhere has he mentioned that he

473
00:16:04,710 --> 00:16:01,600
aligned hart plaza to the

474
00:16:06,829 --> 00:16:04,720
pyramids and the closest thing i can

475
00:16:09,030 --> 00:16:06,839
come to any of this him admitting to the

476
00:16:11,829 --> 00:16:09,040
symbolism is him saying at

477
00:16:13,829 --> 00:16:11,839
one time in the future the symbolism

478
00:16:15,430 --> 00:16:13,839
will be recognized when the time is

479
00:16:17,509 --> 00:16:15,440
right

480
00:16:19,670 --> 00:16:17,519
and that's you know as close as he can

481
00:16:21,509 --> 00:16:19,680
get he gave brief descriptions

482
00:16:23,110 --> 00:16:21,519
of the fountain in his words the

483
00:16:26,310 --> 00:16:23,120
fountain was symbolic

484
00:16:29,269 --> 00:16:26,320
to our relationship to outer space so

485
00:16:31,590 --> 00:16:29,279
you know that's close and the pylon or

486
00:16:33,110 --> 00:16:31,600
the giant obelisk

487
00:16:35,189 --> 00:16:33,120
at the beginning of the plaza where the

488
00:16:35,990 --> 00:16:35,199
sphinx was he said that's symbolic of

489
00:16:38,629 --> 00:16:36,000
our relationship

490
00:16:40,150 --> 00:16:38,639
to space flight so he's definitely

491
00:16:42,069 --> 00:16:40,160
telling you you know there's cosmic

492
00:16:43,110 --> 00:16:42,079
symbolism taking place but he never took

493
00:16:45,829 --> 00:16:43,120
that step

494
00:16:47,990 --> 00:16:45,839
to say i aligned this pyramid or this

495
00:16:51,030 --> 00:16:48,000
plaza just like the pyramids

496
00:16:54,069 --> 00:16:51,040
and giza but

497
00:16:55,509 --> 00:16:54,079
the plaza is a line like that and the

498
00:16:58,389 --> 00:16:55,519
energy is there

499
00:16:59,350 --> 00:16:58,399
so if he did it subconsciously or

500
00:17:01,829 --> 00:16:59,360
intentionally

501
00:17:03,590 --> 00:17:01,839
either way the same power pack is laid

502
00:17:06,069 --> 00:17:03,600
on the ground right on the base

503
00:17:07,510 --> 00:17:06,079
of the detroit river and just waiting

504
00:17:08,470 --> 00:17:07,520
waiting for people to go and check it

505
00:17:11,110 --> 00:17:08,480
out really

506
00:17:12,949 --> 00:17:11,120
very provocative very provocative i love

507
00:17:15,590 --> 00:17:12,959
that part about the face

508
00:17:17,110 --> 00:17:15,600
because it reminds me kind of of richard

509
00:17:17,990 --> 00:17:17,120
dreyfuss in close encounters of the

510
00:17:19,590 --> 00:17:18,000
third kind

511
00:17:21,029 --> 00:17:19,600
where he's building this thing on his

512
00:17:22,710 --> 00:17:21,039
mashed potatoes because he's just got

513
00:17:23,750 --> 00:17:22,720
this thought in his head and he's like

514
00:17:26,789 --> 00:17:23,760
compelled

515
00:17:28,549 --> 00:17:26,799
to bring it into existence somehow it's

516
00:17:30,950 --> 00:17:28,559
kind of like when people talk about

517
00:17:32,150 --> 00:17:30,960
the predictive programming of 9 11

518
00:17:35,510 --> 00:17:32,160
there's that idea that

519
00:17:37,110 --> 00:17:35,520
they seed this stuff in culture to

520
00:17:38,710 --> 00:17:37,120
i guess tell us to clear them of the

521
00:17:39,590 --> 00:17:38,720
karma i don't really buy into that i

522
00:17:42,390 --> 00:17:39,600
really think that

523
00:17:43,830 --> 00:17:42,400
there are just some ideas that kind of

524
00:17:46,950 --> 00:17:43,840
like

525
00:17:49,029 --> 00:17:46,960
a rock hitting water they ripple out in

526
00:17:51,029 --> 00:17:49,039
either direction sometimes before the

527
00:17:55,190 --> 00:17:51,039
event if it's something that's

528
00:17:57,110 --> 00:17:55,200
uh big enough and people just tend to

529
00:17:59,029 --> 00:17:57,120
key into it you know when you're making

530
00:18:00,390 --> 00:17:59,039
the passport for the matrix maybe you

531
00:18:02,789 --> 00:18:00,400
just make it 9 11

532
00:18:04,070 --> 00:18:02,799
2001. although that is an example that's

533
00:18:05,590 --> 00:18:04,080
a little too eerie maybe there's

534
00:18:08,070 --> 00:18:05,600
something funky going on there

535
00:18:10,950 --> 00:18:08,080
but the face aspect i just really like

536
00:18:12,710 --> 00:18:10,960
and he came up with that 1947

537
00:18:13,990 --> 00:18:12,720
like the year of roswell that's one of

538
00:18:16,390 --> 00:18:14,000
the craziest years there

539
00:18:18,230 --> 00:18:16,400
is and for him to come up with that idea

540
00:18:21,590 --> 00:18:18,240
before we ever saw the face

541
00:18:23,830 --> 00:18:21,600
it also comes up in a comic book i think

542
00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:23,840
jack kirby is the one who cares who

543
00:18:26,549 --> 00:18:25,360
wrote it before it actually happened and

544
00:18:29,669 --> 00:18:26,559
he put it on mars

545
00:18:32,070 --> 00:18:29,679
so yeah this theme this idea

546
00:18:33,830 --> 00:18:32,080
reverberates through the subconscious of

547
00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:33,840
a lot of artists it seems

548
00:18:41,190 --> 00:18:37,840
and to quote your book when it comes to

549
00:18:43,190 --> 00:18:41,200
isamu naguchi he once said referring to

550
00:18:44,470 --> 00:18:43,200
the plaza it's kind of a culmination of

551
00:18:45,830 --> 00:18:44,480
my consciousness

552
00:18:47,669 --> 00:18:45,840
and then you say he literally

553
00:18:48,470 --> 00:18:47,679
incorporated many items of universal

554
00:18:50,470 --> 00:18:48,480
symbolism

555
00:18:52,230 --> 00:18:50,480
which he had hidden in plain sight

556
00:18:53,270 --> 00:18:52,240
within the art and architecture of heart

557
00:18:54,789 --> 00:18:53,280
plaza

558
00:18:56,310 --> 00:18:54,799
what he had done is aligning and

559
00:18:57,990 --> 00:18:56,320
correlating heart plaza to the giza

560
00:19:00,310 --> 00:18:58,000
pyramids as well as the heavens

561
00:19:02,310 --> 00:19:00,320
something quite amazing took place

562
00:19:05,029 --> 00:19:02,320
shortly following the new millennium

563
00:19:06,870 --> 00:19:05,039
that brought naguchi's hidden symbolism

564
00:19:08,310 --> 00:19:06,880
bubbling to the surface

565
00:19:10,549 --> 00:19:08,320
well that's very interesting what

566
00:19:12,470 --> 00:19:10,559
happened what is that something very

567
00:19:15,029 --> 00:19:12,480
amazing that you're referring to that

568
00:19:17,350 --> 00:19:15,039
brought this stuff to the surface

569
00:19:19,190 --> 00:19:17,360
actually the first thing that i

570
00:19:21,750 --> 00:19:19,200
recognized

571
00:19:23,510 --> 00:19:21,760
was this new monument so he built all

572
00:19:25,990 --> 00:19:23,520
this in the 70s

573
00:19:28,630 --> 00:19:26,000
and then in the year 2001 this was

574
00:19:31,190 --> 00:19:28,640
detroit's 300th birthday

575
00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:31,200
they had a contest they wanted to update

576
00:19:35,669 --> 00:19:32,640
osama niguchi's park

577
00:19:37,430 --> 00:19:35,679
so they had a contest and they had

578
00:19:39,110 --> 00:19:37,440
i think it was 100 artists come down

579
00:19:39,669 --> 00:19:39,120
here 100 top artists from around the

580
00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:39,679
country

581
00:19:42,950 --> 00:19:42,240
they had them walk around and get a feel

582
00:19:44,710 --> 00:19:42,960
for the part

583
00:19:46,870 --> 00:19:44,720
look at us some of the gucci stuff and

584
00:19:50,150 --> 00:19:46,880
get a feel for the park and go home and

585
00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:50,160
come up with some plans and well the guy

586
00:19:53,270 --> 00:19:51,200
who won the plan

587
00:19:54,789 --> 00:19:53,280
created this monument that was called

588
00:19:57,830 --> 00:19:54,799
transcending

589
00:20:01,110 --> 00:19:57,840
and this monument undeniably looks like

590
00:20:03,029 --> 00:20:01,120
a stargate i mean i mean it couldn't

591
00:20:04,710 --> 00:20:03,039
look any more like the science fiction

592
00:20:07,909 --> 00:20:04,720
star gate from the movies

593
00:20:09,909 --> 00:20:07,919
and it's 63 foot tall and it sits right

594
00:20:11,909 --> 00:20:09,919
at the entrance to the plaza

595
00:20:13,990 --> 00:20:11,919
and what it's actually supposed to be i

596
00:20:14,789 --> 00:20:14,000
call it a stargate but the artist david

597
00:20:17,029 --> 00:20:14,799
barr

598
00:20:19,110 --> 00:20:17,039
he said this is a gear because this was

599
00:20:19,990 --> 00:20:19,120
for detroit's 300th birthday is supposed

600
00:20:22,070 --> 00:20:20,000
to be a gear

601
00:20:23,190 --> 00:20:22,080
protruding from the earth there's a

602
00:20:26,470 --> 00:20:23,200
special kind of gear

603
00:20:28,789 --> 00:20:26,480
called a synchronization gear and so

604
00:20:30,870 --> 00:20:28,799
that's what he said this was and around

605
00:20:31,909 --> 00:20:30,880
this base of this monument has a green

606
00:20:33,190 --> 00:20:31,919
granite spiral

607
00:20:35,510 --> 00:20:33,200
and it wraps around it through the

608
00:20:38,950 --> 00:20:35,520
center of the gateway and

609
00:20:41,190 --> 00:20:38,960
just like a sama naguchi i was curious

610
00:20:42,870 --> 00:20:41,200
is this subconscious or did he literally

611
00:20:44,789 --> 00:20:42,880
mean to put a stargate down here i know

612
00:20:46,870 --> 00:20:44,799
he calls it a gear so i took the time

613
00:20:48,149 --> 00:20:46,880
which i recommend anyone in this

614
00:20:50,710 --> 00:20:48,159
research if you have the

615
00:20:52,710 --> 00:20:50,720
chance take the time and ask the artist

616
00:20:54,390 --> 00:20:52,720
you know what they were thinking

617
00:20:55,830 --> 00:20:54,400
and so he actually was kind enough to

618
00:20:57,750 --> 00:20:55,840
get back with me

619
00:20:59,750 --> 00:20:57,760
and i asked him you know david barr i'm

620
00:21:00,310 --> 00:20:59,760
looking to sub some conscious symbolism

621
00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:00,320
i know this

622
00:21:04,549 --> 00:21:02,480
is supposed to be a gear but you know

623
00:21:05,510 --> 00:21:04,559
any chance a stargate or portal crossed

624
00:21:07,510 --> 00:21:05,520
your mind

625
00:21:10,230 --> 00:21:07,520
and he was kind enough to get back with

626
00:21:12,149 --> 00:21:10,240
me and he said you know no a stargate

627
00:21:14,630 --> 00:21:12,159
never crossed my mind

628
00:21:16,710 --> 00:21:14,640
but that being said the green granite

629
00:21:18,230 --> 00:21:16,720
spiral that wraps around and through the

630
00:21:21,270 --> 00:21:18,240
center of the gateway

631
00:21:21,669 --> 00:21:21,280
that allows the visitor to leave the

632
00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:21,679
grid

633
00:21:27,990 --> 00:21:25,360
of the city for the sphere of space

634
00:21:29,350 --> 00:21:28,000
so you know he says he never thought of

635
00:21:31,990 --> 00:21:29,360
a stargate but he

636
00:21:32,390 --> 00:21:32,000
pretty much described one to me you know

637
00:21:37,909 --> 00:21:32,400
i'm

638
00:21:39,990 --> 00:21:37,919
literal stargate where you're going to

639
00:21:41,430 --> 00:21:40,000
go through and end up on the other side

640
00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:41,440
of the country

641
00:21:45,029 --> 00:21:43,120
i'm talking about these are what i

642
00:21:46,870 --> 00:21:45,039
believe to be consciousness targets

643
00:21:49,830 --> 00:21:46,880
where information

644
00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:49,840
may be able to come and go and to me

645
00:21:53,590 --> 00:21:50,400
that's

646
00:21:54,549 --> 00:21:53,600
pretty much how he described it so it

647
00:21:57,510 --> 00:21:54,559
was this giant

648
00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:57,520
transcending stargate that sits you know

649
00:22:00,470 --> 00:21:58,080
right at the

650
00:22:01,669 --> 00:22:00,480
entrance to the plaza that really made

651
00:22:03,510 --> 00:22:01,679
me look around

652
00:22:05,270 --> 00:22:03,520
you know and say there's definitely

653
00:22:06,710 --> 00:22:05,280
something going on here and that's when

654
00:22:09,430 --> 00:22:06,720
i started reading the signs and

655
00:22:10,870 --> 00:22:09,440
everything just kind of fell together so

656
00:22:13,270 --> 00:22:10,880
to speak and

657
00:22:15,190 --> 00:22:13,280
when they were having the contest for

658
00:22:16,950 --> 00:22:15,200
this new monument

659
00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:16,960
they were updating the whole riverfront

660
00:22:22,390 --> 00:22:18,880
detroit and the whole project

661
00:22:25,590 --> 00:22:22,400
was actually entitled the gateway vision

662
00:22:25,990 --> 00:22:25,600
so i mean right from the get-go even the

663
00:22:27,669 --> 00:22:26,000
title

664
00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:27,679
of the project was called the gateway

665
00:22:32,230 --> 00:22:30,159
vision and then they erected this giant

666
00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:32,240
transcending gateway

667
00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:34,080
and that's at the front of the plaza in

668
00:22:37,750 --> 00:22:36,000
the back of the plaza they put a brand

669
00:22:40,789 --> 00:22:37,760
new installation it was called the

670
00:22:42,549 --> 00:22:40,799
gateway to freedom and that was a

671
00:22:44,710 --> 00:22:42,559
monument for the slaves this was the

672
00:22:47,590 --> 00:22:44,720
last stop on the underground railroad

673
00:22:47,990 --> 00:22:47,600
before they would cross over into canada

674
00:22:49,909 --> 00:22:48,000
but

675
00:22:51,110 --> 00:22:49,919
you know the gateway symbolism at that

676
00:22:53,110 --> 00:22:51,120
point was just

677
00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:53,120
everywhere even you know the horse and

678
00:22:56,710 --> 00:22:54,960
son fountain they even gave that a new

679
00:22:58,870 --> 00:22:56,720
plaque and the new plaque said this is

680
00:22:59,750 --> 00:22:58,880
an engine of water at that gateway to a

681
00:23:01,590 --> 00:22:59,760
great city

682
00:23:03,510 --> 00:23:01,600
they made it clear you know that this

683
00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:03,520
was a gateway vision

684
00:23:07,830 --> 00:23:06,240
and you know all it really took to come

685
00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:07,840
up with all this information is

686
00:23:11,350 --> 00:23:10,720
really seeing what the artist had to say

687
00:23:14,230 --> 00:23:11,360
and

688
00:23:14,789 --> 00:23:14,240
reading the signs so that that's what i

689
00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:14,799
recommend

690
00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:16,960
anybody interested in getting out there

691
00:23:21,029 --> 00:23:18,240
doing this just

692
00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:21,039
read the signs follow your intuition and

693
00:23:23,590 --> 00:23:22,640
synchronicities will be everywhere i'm

694
00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:23,600
telling you

695
00:23:26,789 --> 00:23:25,200
and if you can you know try to find out

696
00:23:28,630 --> 00:23:26,799
what the artist had to say and

697
00:23:30,950 --> 00:23:28,640
you'll be really surprised about the

698
00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:30,960
information you're able to pull out

699
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:33,840
yeah definitely this stuff is everywhere

700
00:23:37,110 --> 00:23:34,559
and

701
00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:37,120
i always kind of try to unpack what the

702
00:23:41,750 --> 00:23:39,120
mechanisms are that they're playing with

703
00:23:43,669 --> 00:23:41,760
maybe it is as simple as the same way

704
00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:43,679
when you hear the right song it can

705
00:23:47,350 --> 00:23:44,640
totally flip

706
00:23:47,909 --> 00:23:47,360
your negative mood into a positive maybe

707
00:23:50,390 --> 00:23:47,919
these

708
00:23:53,110 --> 00:23:50,400
monument builders are trying to just put

709
00:23:55,990 --> 00:23:53,120
things in public spaces that

710
00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:56,000
facilitate positive energy and motivate

711
00:23:59,590 --> 00:23:57,360
more people to be

712
00:24:01,029 --> 00:23:59,600
in a good mood if it is some kind of

713
00:24:03,269 --> 00:24:01,039
altruistic thing

714
00:24:05,510 --> 00:24:03,279
but what i'm trying to understand how

715
00:24:07,990 --> 00:24:05,520
important and potent this stuff is

716
00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:08,000
i find it interesting that in detroit's

717
00:24:12,149 --> 00:24:10,000
case it has had one of the hardest

718
00:24:14,390 --> 00:24:12,159
falls of any american city in recent

719
00:24:16,789 --> 00:24:14,400
memory if these structures and

720
00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:16,799
incorporated symbols have an energetic

721
00:24:20,470 --> 00:24:17,760
effect that is

722
00:24:22,789 --> 00:24:20,480
important what can account for such a

723
00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:22,799
string of bad luck for detroit around

724
00:24:28,549 --> 00:24:25,840
2008 and the years after obviously we

725
00:24:30,630 --> 00:24:28,559
know it was car industry related but

726
00:24:32,149 --> 00:24:30,640
it makes me wonder did they do something

727
00:24:34,710 --> 00:24:32,159
to affect the energy

728
00:24:36,630 --> 00:24:34,720
or move some key structure or something

729
00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:36,640
like that disrupt the

730
00:24:42,549 --> 00:24:39,760
flow of the energetic river so to speak

731
00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:42,559
it makes you wonder it does make you

732
00:24:44,789 --> 00:24:44,159
wonder and i don't know if any key

733
00:24:46,549 --> 00:24:44,799
structures

734
00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:46,559
have been moved so to speak but as much

735
00:24:51,669 --> 00:24:48,720
as i like to describe it

736
00:24:53,750 --> 00:24:51,679
as almost a pulse detroit ever since its

737
00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:53,760
inception back in the 1700s

738
00:25:00,950 --> 00:24:56,880
went through huge swings huge ups

739
00:25:03,269 --> 00:25:00,960
and huge downs i mean at one time

740
00:25:04,710 --> 00:25:03,279
detroit was considered the paris of the

741
00:25:06,870 --> 00:25:04,720
west it was one of the

742
00:25:09,190 --> 00:25:06,880
richest and most fluent cities and

743
00:25:12,470 --> 00:25:09,200
progressive cities in the world

744
00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:12,480
and then it was the murder city i mean

745
00:25:16,789 --> 00:25:13,520
it took the biggest

746
00:25:18,710 --> 00:25:16,799
downfall you could imagine and all that

747
00:25:19,669 --> 00:25:18,720
energy was pretty much just sucked out

748
00:25:23,110 --> 00:25:19,679
of detroit

749
00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:23,120
and then in the 90s the energy was all

750
00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:25,120
brought back they called it the

751
00:25:29,590 --> 00:25:26,960
renaissance city

752
00:25:31,590 --> 00:25:29,600
and just for hundreds of years energy

753
00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:31,600
seems to be sucked out and then brought

754
00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:32,000
back

755
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:35,840
know with honesty i

756
00:25:39,669 --> 00:25:38,080
don't know how to explain that other

757
00:25:42,630 --> 00:25:39,679
than it's happening

758
00:25:43,830 --> 00:25:42,640
but that is absolutely a phenomenon that

759
00:25:45,990 --> 00:25:43,840
does take place

760
00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:46,000
and you know it usually lasts my

761
00:25:49,029 --> 00:25:48,320
estimation 30 40 years between each

762
00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:49,039
swing

763
00:25:52,549 --> 00:25:50,640
and it'll go through its ups and its

764
00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:52,559
downs and

765
00:25:58,070 --> 00:25:55,600
right now it's on a big upswing

766
00:25:59,029 --> 00:25:58,080
but it's only been on that upswing for

767
00:26:02,390 --> 00:25:59,039
the last

768
00:26:04,630 --> 00:26:02,400
10 years or so so it's going up and down

769
00:26:05,909 --> 00:26:04,640
up and down and the energy is going in

770
00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:05,919
and out and

771
00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:08,880
in a way i guess it was some type of

772
00:26:14,470 --> 00:26:12,080
portal you could kind of expect that

773
00:26:16,149 --> 00:26:14,480
but as far as explaining it i can't

774
00:26:18,630 --> 00:26:16,159
necessarily explain it

775
00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:18,640
i can say you know the street layouts

776
00:26:21,190 --> 00:26:19,440
ever since

777
00:26:23,669 --> 00:26:21,200
they built streets have been laid out

778
00:26:25,190 --> 00:26:23,679
with sacred geometry the streets

779
00:26:28,390 --> 00:26:25,200
downtown are laid out

780
00:26:29,990 --> 00:26:28,400
in a pentagon and pentagram of fashion

781
00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:30,000
they were actually fashioned after

782
00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:31,840
washington dc

783
00:26:35,590 --> 00:26:34,720
so i mean there's symbolism laid on the

784
00:26:38,310 --> 00:26:35,600
ground

785
00:26:39,990 --> 00:26:38,320
capturing energy besides heart plasma

786
00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:40,000
heart plasma

787
00:26:44,630 --> 00:26:42,480
actually sits at the base of the

788
00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:44,640
pentagram all street layout

789
00:26:48,470 --> 00:26:46,480
so it's not just heart plasma that's

790
00:26:48,789 --> 00:26:48,480
special and laid out in these ways it's

791
00:26:51,909 --> 00:26:48,799
har

792
00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:51,919
plaza it's the streets itself in the

793
00:26:55,110 --> 00:26:53,520
center of that pentagonal layout there's

794
00:26:55,990 --> 00:26:55,120
another park that's connected to hart

795
00:26:58,470 --> 00:26:56,000
plaza

796
00:26:59,590 --> 00:26:58,480
that's called campus marshes or campus

797
00:27:02,149 --> 00:26:59,600
mars

798
00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:02,159
and that's actually detroit's point of

799
00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:02,880
origin

800
00:27:05,990 --> 00:27:04,559
as they call it there's a giant star

801
00:27:08,390 --> 00:27:06,000
right in the ground that says point

802
00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:08,400
of origin and this is where augustus

803
00:27:11,190 --> 00:27:10,320
woodward laid out the city streets he

804
00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:11,200
laid out this

805
00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:14,240
pentagram and pentagon street layout so

806
00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:14,720
there's

807
00:27:19,750 --> 00:27:16,240
you know since its inception in the

808
00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:19,760
1700s in the street layouts in the 1800s

809
00:27:23,190 --> 00:27:22,480
it's always had the symbolism this

810
00:27:24,870 --> 00:27:23,200
symbolism

811
00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:24,880
just keeps re-emerging if it's through

812
00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:26,480
the street layouts if it's through

813
00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:29,440
artists and architects say the buildings

814
00:27:33,830 --> 00:27:32,000
the building in the heart of campus mars

815
00:27:35,110 --> 00:27:33,840
which is the heart of the pentagonal

816
00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:35,120
street layout

817
00:27:39,110 --> 00:27:37,440
even the building took on the shape of a

818
00:27:41,830 --> 00:27:39,120
giant pentagon

819
00:27:43,110 --> 00:27:41,840
and on top of that building is a giant

820
00:27:46,149 --> 00:27:43,120
pentagonal five

821
00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:46,159
starred glass pyramid

822
00:27:49,590 --> 00:27:48,559
and remember this is that campus mars

823
00:27:52,789 --> 00:27:49,600
this

824
00:27:56,310 --> 00:27:52,799
giant five-star glass pyramid

825
00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:56,320
very similar to the five-star pyramid

826
00:28:01,510 --> 00:27:59,760
on mars yeah so i mean it's just

827
00:28:03,269 --> 00:28:01,520
a small little synchronicity but when

828
00:28:04,789 --> 00:28:03,279
you start adding up all of the

829
00:28:06,549 --> 00:28:04,799
synchronicities

830
00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:06,559
there seems to be something there that

831
00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:07,840
the symbolism

832
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:10,320
seems to be re-emerging through all

833
00:28:13,669 --> 00:28:12,000
different fashions

834
00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:13,679
and then you know driving around that

835
00:28:19,269 --> 00:28:15,200
pentagonal

836
00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:19,279
street layout you have chrysler vehicles

837
00:28:22,950 --> 00:28:21,120
with the pentagram hood ornament doing

838
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:22,960
circles around the building

839
00:28:26,870 --> 00:28:25,760
so i mean no matter where you look the

840
00:28:29,990 --> 00:28:26,880
symbolism

841
00:28:31,669 --> 00:28:30,000
just shows up and people make what they

842
00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:31,679
want of it some people will say that

843
00:28:34,789 --> 00:28:34,080
pentagram symbolism you know that's

844
00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:34,799
obviously

845
00:28:39,029 --> 00:28:37,840
absolute evil you know and other people

846
00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:39,039
will say the opposite

847
00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:41,600
but you know it's a lot of what you make

848
00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:44,000
of it and what the society makes of it

849
00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:46,640
so i always point out to me when i see

850
00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:47,039
this

851
00:28:51,669 --> 00:28:49,440
pentagon and pentagram connecting

852
00:28:53,510 --> 00:28:51,679
detroit

853
00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:53,520
one way you can look at in a super

854
00:28:57,590 --> 00:28:54,880
general sense is the

855
00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:57,600
pentagram it can be symbolic of of

856
00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:58,080
course

857
00:29:01,510 --> 00:28:59,840
the human body with their arms

858
00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:01,520
outstretched in their head

859
00:29:05,350 --> 00:29:04,320
it can be symbolic of the stars and it

860
00:29:07,590 --> 00:29:05,360
can be symbolic

861
00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:07,600
of the five elements so this is one

862
00:29:12,789 --> 00:29:09,200
symbol that can connect

863
00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:12,799
the earth the body and space or the

864
00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:13,840
stars

865
00:29:18,470 --> 00:29:17,600
so to have this symbol everywhere around

866
00:29:21,669 --> 00:29:18,480
the city i

867
00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:21,679
feel like these realms however you want

868
00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:22,640
to look at it

869
00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:24,320
you can look at the underworld the upper

870
00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:27,840
world in our realm but they're all being

871
00:29:31,590 --> 00:29:30,880
connected in some strange fashion and it

872
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:31,600
seems like

873
00:29:35,510 --> 00:29:34,080
information may be flowing back and

874
00:29:37,590 --> 00:29:35,520
forth through these realms

875
00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:37,600
and i honestly don't know where it's

876
00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:38,720
coming from

877
00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:40,320
and that's one thing i always make clear

878
00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:42,880
you know all this information

879
00:29:46,789 --> 00:29:44,880
i don't have an answer for where it's

880
00:29:50,710 --> 00:29:46,799
coming from

881
00:29:51,830 --> 00:29:50,720
a lot of these places are on ancient

882
00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:51,840
mounds

883
00:29:56,310 --> 00:29:54,960
so could it be the deceased or

884
00:29:58,389 --> 00:29:56,320
you know a lot of these mountains had

885
00:30:01,430 --> 00:29:58,399
giant bones incorporated could it be

886
00:30:02,789 --> 00:30:01,440
the deceased giants or you know a lot of

887
00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:02,799
the symbolism is straight up

888
00:30:06,149 --> 00:30:04,640
cosmic symbolism so could it be coming

889
00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:06,159
from above or both

890
00:30:10,230 --> 00:30:08,480
you know try to be honest i don't

891
00:30:12,149 --> 00:30:10,240
exactly know where it's coming from or

892
00:30:15,669 --> 00:30:12,159
how this symbolism

893
00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:15,679
keeps emerging but it does yes

894
00:30:19,430 --> 00:30:18,320
very interesting stuff and pentagrams

895
00:30:21,669 --> 00:30:19,440
definitely

896
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:21,679
contribute to the flow of energy between

897
00:30:25,110 --> 00:30:23,600
realms i mean just ask anyone who's

898
00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:25,120
dabbled in the occult

899
00:30:28,710 --> 00:30:27,120
and when it comes to these symbols i

900
00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:28,720
tend to think of them as

901
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:31,360
neutral but powerful and it just happens

902
00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:31,840
to be

903
00:30:35,590 --> 00:30:34,240
that powerful people with nefarious

904
00:30:37,909 --> 00:30:35,600
intention

905
00:30:39,510 --> 00:30:37,919
and the insight to know about these

906
00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:39,520
symbols are the ones who use them so

907
00:30:44,389 --> 00:30:41,440
when we see 666 or

908
00:30:46,149 --> 00:30:44,399
33s or pentagrams i don't think the

909
00:30:46,630 --> 00:30:46,159
symbols themselves are bad it's just

910
00:30:49,430 --> 00:30:46,640
that

911
00:30:50,950 --> 00:30:49,440
only people who are the ones extracting

912
00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:50,960
wealth and power from everyone are the

913
00:30:54,149 --> 00:30:53,279
ones who use the symbols so we associate

914
00:30:56,710 --> 00:30:54,159
them with

915
00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:56,720
nefarious intention but that's just i

916
00:30:59,830 --> 00:30:57,840
guess uh

917
00:31:01,990 --> 00:30:59,840
the way i process it i guess everyone's

918
00:31:03,909 --> 00:31:02,000
a little different but

919
00:31:05,110 --> 00:31:03,919
this is kind of a tangent but i looked

920
00:31:07,590 --> 00:31:05,120
at some of

921
00:31:09,909 --> 00:31:07,600
naguchi's other notable works and they

922
00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:09,919
are things like the japanese garden at

923
00:31:13,590 --> 00:31:10,240
the

924
00:31:16,470 --> 00:31:13,600
landscape

925
00:31:17,509 --> 00:31:16,480
for the rare book and manuscript library

926
00:31:20,470 --> 00:31:17,519
at yale

927
00:31:20,870 --> 00:31:20,480
a museum in jerusalem something called

928
00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:20,880
the

929
00:31:26,789 --> 00:31:24,480
avenue

930
00:31:28,389 --> 00:31:26,799
in new york and another thing called

931
00:31:31,509 --> 00:31:28,399
studies for the sun

932
00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:31,519
at the governor nelson rockefeller

933
00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:32,080
empire

934
00:31:37,269 --> 00:31:35,039
state plaza art house i mean that's

935
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:37,279
quite a resume this guy gets around and

936
00:31:42,389 --> 00:31:39,120
it seems like people in the big club

937
00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:42,399
uh they know who he is he does get

938
00:31:45,509 --> 00:31:43,279
around and

939
00:31:46,549 --> 00:31:45,519
he really didn't start getting around as

940
00:31:49,669 --> 00:31:46,559
much until

941
00:31:51,269 --> 00:31:49,679
after creating heart plaza once he

942
00:31:54,070 --> 00:31:51,279
created our plaza

943
00:31:55,430 --> 00:31:54,080
i guess the word was out you know and i

944
00:31:55,830 --> 00:31:55,440
always like to point out just like you

945
00:31:57,509 --> 00:31:55,840
did

946
00:31:59,990 --> 00:31:57,519
some of the other sculptures these guys

947
00:32:03,509 --> 00:32:00,000
do and when he left hart plaza he

948
00:32:04,389 --> 00:32:03,519
went down to cleveland ohio and in the

949
00:32:06,470 --> 00:32:04,399
city center

950
00:32:08,710 --> 00:32:06,480
he built this giant sculpture and it's

951
00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:08,720
called the portal

952
00:32:14,789 --> 00:32:12,240
and from cleveland he went to hawaii

953
00:32:15,430 --> 00:32:14,799
and he created his next sculpture and it

954
00:32:18,789 --> 00:32:15,440
was called

955
00:32:20,710 --> 00:32:18,799
sky gate so he was

956
00:32:22,630 --> 00:32:20,720
definitely on this i don't know if you

957
00:32:26,389 --> 00:32:22,640
want to call mission or what but he had

958
00:32:30,070 --> 00:32:26,399
portals and gateways on his mind

959
00:32:32,310 --> 00:32:30,080
once he left detroit and like you said

960
00:32:34,389 --> 00:32:32,320
the word was out he went on to have a

961
00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:34,399
heck of a career

962
00:32:38,149 --> 00:32:36,240
he was actually one of buck monster

963
00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:38,159
fuller's understudies for a while

964
00:32:41,669 --> 00:32:41,039
and he went on to have just an amazing

965
00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:41,679
career

966
00:32:48,549 --> 00:32:45,120
but hart plaza was really

967
00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:48,559
that was his first actual park landscape

968
00:32:51,509 --> 00:32:49,760
he had the

969
00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:51,519
chance to create normally it was just

970
00:32:55,269 --> 00:32:53,440
sculpture so when he had the chance to

971
00:32:58,310 --> 00:32:55,279
create a whole park

972
00:33:01,830 --> 00:32:58,320
that's what manifested

973
00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:01,840
yeah maybe it was that trip to egypt or

974
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:03,600
maybe there's some mystic school in

975
00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:05,440
japan teaching this stuff because

976
00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:09,120
i went down a rabbit hole of another

977
00:33:15,909 --> 00:33:12,640
japanese designer and architect manure

978
00:33:17,750 --> 00:33:15,919
yamasaki who died in the 60s but i know

979
00:33:20,310 --> 00:33:17,760
of him because a dark spot

980
00:33:22,149 --> 00:33:20,320
in st louis history is the pruitt i go

981
00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:22,159
building projects it's where the term

982
00:33:27,110 --> 00:33:24,480
the projects actually came from

983
00:33:27,509 --> 00:33:27,120
and it was sold to poor black families

984
00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:27,519
in st

985
00:33:32,070 --> 00:33:30,240
louis as this new innovation and the

986
00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:32,080
quote unquote place to be

987
00:33:36,549 --> 00:33:34,159
but once people moved in it all started

988
00:33:39,029 --> 00:33:36,559
falling apart almost by design

989
00:33:39,830 --> 00:33:39,039
cheap probably toxic building materials

990
00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:39,840
were used

991
00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:42,960
it's also the set of buildings that the

992
00:33:47,110 --> 00:33:45,200
military attached these chemical

993
00:33:48,310 --> 00:33:47,120
sprayers on in the neighborhood that was

994
00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:48,320
a whole other scandal

995
00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:51,039
they eventually demolished it after only

996
00:33:54,549 --> 00:33:52,000
a few years there's

997
00:33:55,190 --> 00:33:54,559
documentaries about it you can see but

998
00:33:57,909 --> 00:33:55,200
this guy

999
00:33:58,310 --> 00:33:57,919
also had a hell of a resume he designed

1000
00:34:02,950 --> 00:33:58,320
the

1001
00:34:06,149 --> 00:34:02,960
reserve bank of richmond

1002
00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:06,159
and the twin towers in new york city

1003
00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:09,280
which some say had sacrificial symbolism

1004
00:34:14,069 --> 00:34:12,000
carved right into the building so

1005
00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:14,079
not really related but just another

1006
00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:15,520
interesting well-connected

1007
00:34:19,589 --> 00:34:17,760
japanese architect oh greg you don't

1008
00:34:21,589 --> 00:34:19,599
know how related it is

1009
00:34:22,869 --> 00:34:21,599
okay so ready for this so if you go to

1010
00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:22,879
my website anybody

1011
00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:25,040
you look at the pictures of the

1012
00:34:29,430 --> 00:34:27,599
transcending gateway the giant gateway

1013
00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:29,440
that looks like a stargate

1014
00:34:33,349 --> 00:34:31,200
when you look through it you'll see a

1015
00:34:36,149 --> 00:34:33,359
giant white building

1016
00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:36,159
that white building that looks identical

1017
00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:37,520
to the trade centers

1018
00:34:42,550 --> 00:34:40,560
was created by yamasaki

1019
00:34:44,149 --> 00:34:42,560
he created that one first to make sure

1020
00:34:46,869 --> 00:34:44,159
the architecture design

1021
00:34:49,109 --> 00:34:46,879
would work on the trade centers so you

1022
00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:49,119
look through the transcending gateway

1023
00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:52,000
right at his first design what he would

1024
00:34:57,670 --> 00:34:54,720
later use to create the trade centers

1025
00:34:58,150 --> 00:34:57,680
wow wow stumbled into that one i like it

1026
00:35:00,470 --> 00:34:58,160
and

1027
00:35:01,750 --> 00:35:00,480
i also saw the interesting synchronicity

1028
00:35:02,950 --> 00:35:01,760
when i was getting ready for this that

1029
00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:02,960
yamasaki died

1030
00:35:07,990 --> 00:35:06,000
in detroit which is the uh crux of of

1031
00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:08,000
your area that you're talking about

1032
00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:11,119
oh wow another weird synchronicity

1033
00:35:15,030 --> 00:35:13,040
but let's talk about st louis a little

1034
00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:15,040
bit because you have done some research

1035
00:35:20,069 --> 00:35:17,520
there too people know about the arch

1036
00:35:20,870 --> 00:35:20,079
the quote unquote gateway to the west as

1037
00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:20,880
they say

1038
00:35:26,390 --> 00:35:24,000
but man there is almost a full ritual

1039
00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:26,400
built into the process of going up in

1040
00:35:30,790 --> 00:35:27,200
the arch

1041
00:35:33,190 --> 00:35:30,800
that i was totally unaware of right

1042
00:35:34,310 --> 00:35:33,200
there is and i like to be up front

1043
00:35:36,550 --> 00:35:34,320
because i it's been

1044
00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:36,560
five years or so since i've been there i

1045
00:35:41,109 --> 00:35:38,720
know they did some renovations

1046
00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:41,119
so some of this may or may not have

1047
00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:43,200
changed inside the arch i can't say for

1048
00:35:46,470 --> 00:35:44,240
sure

1049
00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:46,480
but yeah the arch itself you know it's

1050
00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:47,359
more than just

1051
00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:51,040
a giant arch the first thing i noticed

1052
00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:52,560
when i pulled into town the first time

1053
00:35:56,710 --> 00:35:54,320
because it was after dark and it

1054
00:35:57,510 --> 00:35:56,720
glistens and all the city lights and it

1055
00:35:59,270 --> 00:35:57,520
to me

1056
00:36:01,030 --> 00:35:59,280
looked like a giant rainbow and that's

1057
00:36:03,670 --> 00:36:01,040
kind of goofy to say but

1058
00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:03,680
it did look like a giant rainbow and i

1059
00:36:06,550 --> 00:36:04,480
over the years

1060
00:36:07,670 --> 00:36:06,560
been researching what's called the

1061
00:36:10,550 --> 00:36:07,680
rainbow bridge

1062
00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:10,560
which in mythology is a gateway between

1063
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:11,280
realms

1064
00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:13,440
yeah so you know i like to think that in

1065
00:36:16,470 --> 00:36:14,960
my head when i seen it but that's not

1066
00:36:18,950 --> 00:36:16,480
enough to go out and talk about the

1067
00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:18,960
gateway irish being a rainbow bridge

1068
00:36:23,109 --> 00:36:21,200
but the first thing you see though when

1069
00:36:24,790 --> 00:36:23,119
you go into the gateway arch they take

1070
00:36:27,589 --> 00:36:24,800
you in to the basement

1071
00:36:30,150 --> 00:36:27,599
and there is just a giant mural of brick

1072
00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:30,160
murals 45 foot long i believe

1073
00:36:34,950 --> 00:36:33,119
and the artist name was jay tutzer and

1074
00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:34,960
it's called the builder's mural and on

1075
00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:35,920
this mural

1076
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:38,320
all the monuments that have been created

1077
00:36:43,589 --> 00:36:40,560
for the nation the statue of liberty

1078
00:36:45,349 --> 00:36:43,599
and mount rushmore and the gateway arch

1079
00:36:47,589 --> 00:36:45,359
but there's one that wasn't created by

1080
00:36:50,710 --> 00:36:47,599
any architects that happens to be

1081
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:50,720
utah's rainbow bridge so

1082
00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:52,720
you know right away it's like okay maybe

1083
00:36:55,670 --> 00:36:54,000
there is some rainbow

1084
00:36:58,069 --> 00:36:55,680
bridge symbolism here besides you know

1085
00:37:00,630 --> 00:36:58,079
just glittering in the city lights

1086
00:37:01,109 --> 00:37:00,640
so you know you get to go up to the top

1087
00:37:03,829 --> 00:37:01,119
of this

1088
00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:03,839
rainbow bridge so to speak and you're

1089
00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:05,040
waiting in line

1090
00:37:08,069 --> 00:37:06,720
at least when i went there i was waiting

1091
00:37:09,510 --> 00:37:08,079
in line and they had it was called the

1092
00:37:12,870 --> 00:37:09,520
mark twain exhibit

1093
00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:12,880
and it was this giant scale and the

1094
00:37:15,829 --> 00:37:14,160
kids and vine would be weighing

1095
00:37:16,870 --> 00:37:15,839
themselves on this scale against each

1096
00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:16,880
other and

1097
00:37:20,470 --> 00:37:19,040
i was surprised because whoever was

1098
00:37:23,829 --> 00:37:20,480
lighter thought they

1099
00:37:25,270 --> 00:37:23,839
got to go next in line and what i was

1100
00:37:25,510 --> 00:37:25,280
thinking is like well that's weird you

1101
00:37:27,270 --> 00:37:25,520
know

1102
00:37:29,190 --> 00:37:27,280
as a kid i thought whoever was bigger or

1103
00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:29,200
heavier was gonna go next and

1104
00:37:32,310 --> 00:37:30,800
i watched two or three sets of kids and

1105
00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:32,320
whoever was lighter

1106
00:37:37,190 --> 00:37:35,680
hopped off and they got to go next and

1107
00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:37,200
it took me a while to figure this out

1108
00:37:42,069 --> 00:37:39,920
but this is very similar to the egyptian

1109
00:37:43,270 --> 00:37:42,079
weighing of the heart ceremony where

1110
00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:43,280
they would weigh the heart

1111
00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:44,880
against the feather on the scales of

1112
00:37:48,069 --> 00:37:47,040
moth and if your heart was lighter than

1113
00:37:50,470 --> 00:37:48,079
the feather

1114
00:37:51,589 --> 00:37:50,480
you're allowed to pass into the next

1115
00:37:53,349 --> 00:37:51,599
realm

1116
00:37:55,750 --> 00:37:53,359
so it's like okay you know that's kind

1117
00:37:57,030 --> 00:37:55,760
of cool so whoever was lighter than the

1118
00:38:00,390 --> 00:37:57,040
feather lighter than the other

1119
00:38:02,790 --> 00:38:00,400
kid would get to go next and you get in

1120
00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:02,800
these little yellow pods

1121
00:38:06,310 --> 00:38:04,480
the best way i can describe is it looks

1122
00:38:08,470 --> 00:38:06,320
like a little yellow sun

1123
00:38:11,190 --> 00:38:08,480
and it has a white door that opens and

1124
00:38:13,430 --> 00:38:11,200
you climb into this little yellow sun

1125
00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:13,440
so symbolically speaking you know i'm

1126
00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:14,960
thinking of myself standing in line i'm

1127
00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:16,640
watching this kid

1128
00:38:20,950 --> 00:38:19,200
who just weighed himself on a symbolic

1129
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:20,960
scale like an egyptian

1130
00:38:24,550 --> 00:38:23,280
and he got into the sun with a door so

1131
00:38:26,950 --> 00:38:24,560
in my head i'm thinking sun

1132
00:38:27,670 --> 00:38:26,960
door or you can you know symbolically

1133
00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:27,680
star

1134
00:38:36,630 --> 00:38:34,960
the sun door takes you to the top of the

1135
00:38:39,990 --> 00:38:36,640
what i at that point was kind of

1136
00:38:42,790 --> 00:38:40,000
perceiving as a rainbow bridge

1137
00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:42,800
so you get up top and if you you look

1138
00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:43,440
out

1139
00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:45,760
one way and you look down and there's a

1140
00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:48,079
brand new part called city garden park

1141
00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:50,000
and there's all kinds of more symbolism

1142
00:38:53,109 --> 00:38:51,200
down there

1143
00:38:54,790 --> 00:38:53,119
and you can look out the other direction

1144
00:38:56,790 --> 00:38:54,800
and you look down at one of the most

1145
00:38:58,710 --> 00:38:56,800
ancient landscapes in north america

1146
00:39:01,750 --> 00:38:58,720
cahokia mounds

1147
00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:01,760
so this is a super amazing

1148
00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:03,520
you know just you're up top here and

1149
00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:04,960
you're looking at the past

1150
00:39:09,270 --> 00:39:06,880
out of one window and you're looking at

1151
00:39:11,349 --> 00:39:09,280
the future out of the other window

1152
00:39:13,829 --> 00:39:11,359
and you're on top of this rainbow bridge

1153
00:39:15,109 --> 00:39:13,839
it's amazing

1154
00:39:17,589 --> 00:39:15,119
when you go down you think the

1155
00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:17,599
experience is just about over

1156
00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:19,440
they make sure they put the gift shop

1157
00:39:22,630 --> 00:39:20,720
where you're leaving so you go in the

1158
00:39:23,990 --> 00:39:22,640
gift shop so you got two things left you

1159
00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:24,000
got the gift shop and this

1160
00:39:28,150 --> 00:39:26,800
one more incredible sculpture and it's

1161
00:39:29,910 --> 00:39:28,160
thomas jefferson

1162
00:39:32,470 --> 00:39:29,920
of course this is the jefferson national

1163
00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:32,480
expansion so there's thomas jefferson

1164
00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:35,760
this big bronze statue and he's standing

1165
00:39:39,829 --> 00:39:38,560
in these concentric rings and he's

1166
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:39,839
surrounded by a

1167
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:42,640
red velvet rope and you know i knew

1168
00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:44,960
exactly what i was thinking when i see

1169
00:39:49,270 --> 00:39:47,280
a sculpture standing in these concentric

1170
00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:49,280
rings considering all my research i've

1171
00:39:51,270 --> 00:39:49,920
done but

1172
00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:51,280
you know i didn't want to speculate so i

1173
00:39:54,790 --> 00:39:53,040
went in the gift shop and i got the

1174
00:39:56,310 --> 00:39:54,800
gateway arch gift book

1175
00:39:58,150 --> 00:39:56,320
and found the sculpture and what the

1176
00:40:00,310 --> 00:39:58,160
artist had to say

1177
00:40:02,710 --> 00:40:00,320
and he said something along the lines of

1178
00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:02,720
thomas jefferson he's standing in

1179
00:40:07,349 --> 00:40:05,680
these concentric rings in a space-time

1180
00:40:10,550 --> 00:40:07,359
continuum

1181
00:40:13,430 --> 00:40:10,560
underneath the gateway arch you know

1182
00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:13,440
so like i said i'd love to just find out

1183
00:40:16,069 --> 00:40:14,800
what the artists say and sometimes it's

1184
00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:16,079
better than something you could have

1185
00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:17,200
made up yourself

1186
00:40:22,390 --> 00:40:20,560
i mean the artist said i created a

1187
00:40:24,710 --> 00:40:22,400
thomas jefferson sculpture he's standing

1188
00:40:27,109 --> 00:40:24,720
in the space-time continuum

1189
00:40:29,270 --> 00:40:27,119
you know in the underworld of what now

1190
00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:29,280
is perceived as a rainbow bridge or a

1191
00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:30,000
gateway

1192
00:40:35,670 --> 00:40:33,839
between realms symbolically you know and

1193
00:40:38,309 --> 00:40:35,680
who knew there was a sculpture of thomas

1194
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:38,319
jefferson in a space-time continuum

1195
00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:41,760
i had no clue when i walked in there so

1196
00:40:45,510 --> 00:40:42,960
it's fun to be able to share that with

1197
00:40:47,430 --> 00:40:45,520
people so when they go to these places

1198
00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:47,440
you know if you go to these places one

1199
00:40:50,790 --> 00:40:49,200
week and you go the next week and

1200
00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:50,800
you have this new information you'll see

1201
00:40:55,349 --> 00:40:52,800
these places in an entirely

1202
00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:55,359
different light you know and that's i

1203
00:40:58,790 --> 00:40:57,040
think part of it is being able to go to

1204
00:41:01,109 --> 00:40:58,800
some of these places in your own

1205
00:41:02,790 --> 00:41:01,119
town and when you start looking at them

1206
00:41:05,349 --> 00:41:02,800
in a new way they take on a

1207
00:41:07,589 --> 00:41:05,359
whole new light of their own yes

1208
00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:07,599
absolutely that is a great breakdown and

1209
00:41:10,950 --> 00:41:09,760
i'd been in the arch many many times i

1210
00:41:13,670 --> 00:41:10,960
don't know how

1211
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:13,680
many people actually have but for me it

1212
00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:15,359
was all kinds of field trips you know

1213
00:41:18,870 --> 00:41:16,400
growing up there

1214
00:41:20,230 --> 00:41:18,880
and i obviously never looked at it that

1215
00:41:21,990 --> 00:41:20,240
way then but

1216
00:41:24,550 --> 00:41:22,000
when you actually look at the imagery

1217
00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:24,560
that you are analyzing it's

1218
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:26,880
pretty clear especially that sun part

1219
00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:27,920
and the scales

1220
00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:29,920
but then when you get to the top you get

1221
00:41:33,349 --> 00:41:30,960
out of the elevator

1222
00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:33,359
and you look at the city through these

1223
00:41:36,069 --> 00:41:34,560
windows and

1224
00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:36,079
you refer to them as windows of

1225
00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:37,839
opportunity i don't know if that's your

1226
00:41:42,870 --> 00:41:39,440
term or theirs but

1227
00:41:45,589 --> 00:41:42,880
they measure seven by 72 inches

1228
00:41:47,190 --> 00:41:45,599
and 72 is an important number graham

1229
00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:47,200
hancock calls it the

1230
00:41:50,790 --> 00:41:49,920
processional code number maybe this ties

1231
00:41:53,430 --> 00:41:50,800
into

1232
00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:53,440
cahokia mounds and the wood henge there

1233
00:41:58,309 --> 00:41:55,440
but tell us about 72 and

1234
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:58,319
the importance there yeah like you said

1235
00:42:01,670 --> 00:41:59,040
72

1236
00:42:03,030 --> 00:42:01,680
ties into the processional equinox and

1237
00:42:05,589 --> 00:42:03,040
back at cahokia mountain

1238
00:42:07,190 --> 00:42:05,599
like i said it's just seven miles away

1239
00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:07,200
the number 72

1240
00:42:12,470 --> 00:42:10,240
is found all over the place

1241
00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:12,480
one of the most sacred mounds there the

1242
00:42:17,829 --> 00:42:13,520
mound where

1243
00:42:20,950 --> 00:42:17,839
the leader was buried was mound 72

1244
00:42:22,069 --> 00:42:20,960
and in mound 72 besides the leader of

1245
00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:22,079
the birdman

1246
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:25,760
there was 272

1247
00:42:31,109 --> 00:42:28,640
burials so you know there's 72 forwards

1248
00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:31,119
and backwards 272

1249
00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:34,400
and just outside the mount complex

1250
00:42:37,109 --> 00:42:36,240
there's a giant that's called a wood

1251
00:42:38,630 --> 00:42:37,119
hinge

1252
00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:38,640
and it's you know similar to a

1253
00:42:42,550 --> 00:42:40,480
stonehenge except for it's a woodhenge

1254
00:42:45,510 --> 00:42:42,560
made out of cedar posts

1255
00:42:46,390 --> 00:42:45,520
and initially see the archaeologist

1256
00:42:49,109 --> 00:42:46,400
figured out this

1257
00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:49,119
woodhenge had been rebuilt several times

1258
00:42:51,990 --> 00:42:51,359
its uh first incarnation only had 12

1259
00:42:59,910 --> 00:42:52,000
post

1260
00:43:02,470 --> 00:42:59,920
but the final woodhenge had 72

1261
00:43:03,670 --> 00:43:02,480
post and according to archaeologists

1262
00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:03,680
it's a mystery

1263
00:43:08,710 --> 00:43:06,720
why 72 posts they have no clue but

1264
00:43:10,150 --> 00:43:08,720
like you said greg surely they were

1265
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:10,160
familiar with the procession of the

1266
00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:11,599
equinox

1267
00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:14,800
so it was kind of surprising

1268
00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:17,200
after seeing all that 72 symbolism at

1269
00:43:20,069 --> 00:43:18,560
coqui amount when you go to the top of

1270
00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:20,079
the gateway arch and you happen to be

1271
00:43:24,069 --> 00:43:21,440
looking out and you find out

1272
00:43:26,150 --> 00:43:24,079
the window that you're looking at it

1273
00:43:29,589 --> 00:43:26,160
takes on the same measurements you know

1274
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:29,599
it's just one of those synchronicities

1275
00:43:33,589 --> 00:43:31,920
yeah i like that a lot and when i was

1276
00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:33,599
listening to your presentation

1277
00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:35,680
on the arch it is a little hard to hear

1278
00:43:39,589 --> 00:43:36,720
as you know

1279
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:39,599
but you talk about that giant mural at

1280
00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:40,000
the base

1281
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:42,000
of the arch and it does have the statue

1282
00:43:46,950 --> 00:43:43,440
of liberty on it

1283
00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:46,960
and you note an 11-sided stars at the

1284
00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:49,440
base of the statue of liberty and

1285
00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:51,119
you talk about the significance of this

1286
00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:52,880
symbolism with the rainbow bridge

1287
00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:54,640
between the earthly and heavenly realms

1288
00:43:59,190 --> 00:43:56,720
that the arch symbolizes

1289
00:44:00,069 --> 00:43:59,200
and you mention a mithras connection at

1290
00:44:01,990 --> 00:44:00,079
one point

1291
00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:02,000
and we know the elite love their

1292
00:44:05,430 --> 00:44:04,079
veneration of mithras but i couldn't

1293
00:44:06,870 --> 00:44:05,440
really make it out do you remember what

1294
00:44:08,790 --> 00:44:06,880
that was about

1295
00:44:10,790 --> 00:44:08,800
yeah pretty much i was just showing some

1296
00:44:12,630 --> 00:44:10,800
of the artistic depictions one of the

1297
00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:12,640
main depictions there's not a whole lot

1298
00:44:16,150 --> 00:44:14,000
of different ones in mithras

1299
00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:16,160
but one of the main ones you see will be

1300
00:44:21,829 --> 00:44:18,480
mithras on the back of the bowl

1301
00:44:22,870 --> 00:44:21,839
underneath it looks exactly like utah's

1302
00:44:26,470 --> 00:44:22,880
rainbow bridge

1303
00:44:28,309 --> 00:44:26,480
underneath this arch so mithras

1304
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:28,319
i just show a couple comparisons how

1305
00:44:32,950 --> 00:44:29,520
they're showing mithras

1306
00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:32,960
and lady liberty in similar situations

1307
00:44:37,109 --> 00:44:35,520
and quite a few different depictions and

1308
00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:37,119
that's pretty much as deep as i got with

1309
00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:38,079
that i was just showing how the

1310
00:44:42,069 --> 00:44:39,359
depictions were

1311
00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:42,079
very similar although they were you know

1312
00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:43,920
totally opposite cultures and should

1313
00:44:47,589 --> 00:44:46,000
have nothing to do with each other

1314
00:44:49,109 --> 00:44:47,599
you know the symbolism is still

1315
00:44:51,670 --> 00:44:49,119
identical

1316
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:51,680
yes i knew it was brief but i can't let

1317
00:44:55,829 --> 00:44:52,640
any

1318
00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:55,839
reference to mithras get past me without

1319
00:44:59,349 --> 00:44:57,599
at least bringing it up you know

1320
00:45:00,630 --> 00:44:59,359
but i wanted to make sure we got in some

1321
00:45:02,630 --> 00:45:00,640
of that stuff about the arch because my

1322
00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:02,640
mind was really blown on it

1323
00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:04,400
i mean some of it you have to see to

1324
00:45:08,069 --> 00:45:06,880
realize how intentional the symbolism is

1325
00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:08,079
but it's pretty wild

1326
00:45:12,069 --> 00:45:10,319
yeah and you often talk about how these

1327
00:45:14,390 --> 00:45:12,079
places that contain this stuff

1328
00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:14,400
are natural energy spots on top of

1329
00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:15,760
what's been built there

1330
00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:17,599
it's probably why humans are attracted

1331
00:45:20,790 --> 00:45:19,280
to them over and over again

1332
00:45:23,030 --> 00:45:20,800
whether it's the mountain builders or

1333
00:45:26,069 --> 00:45:23,040
the settlers of stl

1334
00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:26,079
but let's go back to michigan and talk

1335
00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:27,599
about the weird stuff what can you tell

1336
00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:28,800
us about the great

1337
00:45:33,030 --> 00:45:31,520
lakes triangle the lake michigan

1338
00:45:35,589 --> 00:45:33,040
triangle and some of the

1339
00:45:36,710 --> 00:45:35,599
strange disappearances and events that

1340
00:45:38,470 --> 00:45:36,720
seem to happen

1341
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:38,480
pretty routinely around this area it's

1342
00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:40,079
got to be some kind of uh

1343
00:45:45,030 --> 00:45:43,200
vortex or something yeah see

1344
00:45:46,630 --> 00:45:45,040
i've been living in this area for my

1345
00:45:48,710 --> 00:45:46,640
whole life and

1346
00:45:49,990 --> 00:45:48,720
as i've been doing this other research

1347
00:45:51,910 --> 00:45:50,000
on portals and stuff

1348
00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:51,920
it's mainly been in the cities but in

1349
00:45:55,910 --> 00:45:53,280
the background and

1350
00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:55,920
on the news i'm always hearing these

1351
00:46:00,710 --> 00:45:57,359
stories of

1352
00:46:02,150 --> 00:46:00,720
missing people of boats missing of

1353
00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:02,160
planes sometimes they're not always

1354
00:46:07,270 --> 00:46:03,920
missing sometimes they just

1355
00:46:09,990 --> 00:46:07,280
go down in very unusual circumstances

1356
00:46:11,750 --> 00:46:10,000
and these stories have always been super

1357
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:11,760
interesting to me

1358
00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:14,640
and it wasn't really until the last five

1359
00:46:20,069 --> 00:46:17,760
or six years where i've been studying

1360
00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:20,079
here in michigan a lot of stone circles

1361
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:20,800
have been

1362
00:46:24,870 --> 00:46:23,040
popping up underwater as they're looking

1363
00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:24,880
for shipwrecks they're discovering these

1364
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:26,880
ancient stone circles

1365
00:46:30,550 --> 00:46:29,280
so i started to make the connection that

1366
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:30,560
a lot of these

1367
00:46:35,670 --> 00:46:33,760
unusual happenings just happen to be

1368
00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:35,680
happening around some of these

1369
00:46:40,710 --> 00:46:38,880
underwater stone circles and

1370
00:46:42,309 --> 00:46:40,720
i try not to speculate if the stone

1371
00:46:43,829 --> 00:46:42,319
circles have anything to do with it or

1372
00:46:46,390 --> 00:46:43,839
not but that's what really

1373
00:46:48,150 --> 00:46:46,400
brought me into this area studying these

1374
00:46:49,430 --> 00:46:48,160
underwater stone circles and realized

1375
00:46:51,109 --> 00:46:49,440
that they're just

1376
00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:51,119
you know enormous and unusual

1377
00:46:55,910 --> 00:46:52,960
circumstances

1378
00:46:58,710 --> 00:46:55,920
around ships and planes and people and

1379
00:47:00,470 --> 00:46:58,720
ufos and cryptozoology

1380
00:47:03,430 --> 00:47:00,480
you know it's like a lot of different

1381
00:47:07,270 --> 00:47:03,440
phenomenon take place in the same areas

1382
00:47:09,670 --> 00:47:07,280
so the great lakes triangle now

1383
00:47:11,109 --> 00:47:09,680
this is a triangle this is a large

1384
00:47:14,069 --> 00:47:11,119
triangle that encompasses

1385
00:47:15,109 --> 00:47:14,079
all of the great lakes and within this

1386
00:47:18,790 --> 00:47:15,119
triangle

1387
00:47:19,750 --> 00:47:18,800
more disappearances have taken place per

1388
00:47:23,270 --> 00:47:19,760
square mile

1389
00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:23,280
by far than the bermuda triangle

1390
00:47:27,589 --> 00:47:25,680
now within the great lakes triangle

1391
00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:27,599
there are several other triangles

1392
00:47:33,829 --> 00:47:30,720
where the unusual experiences become

1393
00:47:34,870 --> 00:47:33,839
even more focused in particular in the

1394
00:47:37,589 --> 00:47:34,880
southern end of

1395
00:47:38,950 --> 00:47:37,599
lake michigan is the lake michigan

1396
00:47:41,510 --> 00:47:38,960
triangle

1397
00:47:43,510 --> 00:47:41,520
and there are just hundreds and hundreds

1398
00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:43,520
of ship disappearances and plane

1399
00:47:48,790 --> 00:47:44,880
vanishings and

1400
00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:48,800
unusual failures of equipment and then

1401
00:47:53,910 --> 00:47:52,000
in the eastern end of lake ontario

1402
00:47:56,630 --> 00:47:53,920
there's another triangle they call the

1403
00:47:59,670 --> 00:47:56,640
marysburg vortex triangle

1404
00:48:02,309 --> 00:47:59,680
and same scenario ships and planes go

1405
00:48:05,270 --> 00:48:02,319
missing people and right in the heart of

1406
00:48:07,990 --> 00:48:05,280
this triangle there is a documented

1407
00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:08,000
meteor impact and there are magnetic

1408
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:09,599
anomalies on

1409
00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:12,319
all the navigational charts you know

1410
00:48:16,230 --> 00:48:13,680
says it right on there magnetic

1411
00:48:18,870 --> 00:48:16,240
anomalies avoid this area

1412
00:48:20,150 --> 00:48:18,880
so i've been really focusing in on some

1413
00:48:23,910 --> 00:48:20,160
of the stories

1414
00:48:25,990 --> 00:48:23,920
in these different regions and like i

1415
00:48:26,790 --> 00:48:26,000
said there's everything from planes to

1416
00:48:31,589 --> 00:48:26,800
boats to

1417
00:48:34,630 --> 00:48:31,599
people missing to ufos to cryptozoology

1418
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:34,640
so you know maybe start with a

1419
00:48:39,829 --> 00:48:37,440
quick person story because this is

1420
00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:39,839
somewhat well known but it's one of the

1421
00:48:43,910 --> 00:48:42,800
most unusual stories that i find and

1422
00:48:47,430 --> 00:48:43,920
it's

1423
00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:47,440
his name was stephen kubachi

1424
00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:50,480
and so this is back in 1978

1425
00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:53,440
and this is in the southern area of

1426
00:48:55,910 --> 00:48:54,559
southern lake michigan

1427
00:48:58,950 --> 00:48:55,920
i'm talking about the lake michigan

1428
00:49:01,190 --> 00:48:58,960
triangle and stephen kubachi was

1429
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:01,200
one week away from graduating college

1430
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:03,119
from hope college

1431
00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:05,520
and he was an adventurer so that day he

1432
00:49:09,510 --> 00:49:06,960
was going to go out by himself on a

1433
00:49:11,670 --> 00:49:09,520
little cross-country ski trip

1434
00:49:13,270 --> 00:49:11,680
so he's done this trip before his

1435
00:49:15,589 --> 00:49:13,280
parents knew where he was going

1436
00:49:17,510 --> 00:49:15,599
and he took his equipment he went out to

1437
00:49:18,870 --> 00:49:17,520
the shores of lake michigan had a nice

1438
00:49:21,270 --> 00:49:18,880
fresh snow and

1439
00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:21,280
took off on a little ski trip well he

1440
00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:23,440
never returned home that night

1441
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:24,960
so his parents knew right where he

1442
00:49:27,829 --> 00:49:26,640
should have been so you know immediately

1443
00:49:30,069 --> 00:49:27,839
they started a search

1444
00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:30,079
and it took i think it was two days

1445
00:49:34,870 --> 00:49:31,520
before they actually

1446
00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:34,880
found his skis they found his skis and

1447
00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:37,760
his ski boots as they had stepped out of

1448
00:49:40,950 --> 00:49:38,960
his skis

1449
00:49:42,630 --> 00:49:40,960
and then some footprints leading out

1450
00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:42,640
under the ice

1451
00:49:48,150 --> 00:49:46,160
well the footprints abruptly ended

1452
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:48,160
so they weren't sure what to make of it

1453
00:49:50,309 --> 00:49:49,760
you know they kept searching for a while

1454
00:49:52,710 --> 00:49:50,319
but

1455
00:49:53,829 --> 00:49:52,720
eventually they had to tell his parents

1456
00:49:55,829 --> 00:49:53,839
you know stephen he

1457
00:49:58,150 --> 00:49:55,839
must have fallen through the ice you

1458
00:49:59,190 --> 00:49:58,160
know and it had to freeze back over and

1459
00:50:01,270 --> 00:49:59,200
you know that's really the only

1460
00:50:04,069 --> 00:50:01,280
possibility so

1461
00:50:05,990 --> 00:50:04,079
you know his parents moved on and the

1462
00:50:08,309 --> 00:50:06,000
college actually granted him a degree he

1463
00:50:09,750 --> 00:50:08,319
was only a week away

1464
00:50:11,750 --> 00:50:09,760
and that was somewhat the end of the

1465
00:50:15,270 --> 00:50:11,760
story until

1466
00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:15,280
14 months later stephen

1467
00:50:20,630 --> 00:50:19,520
awakens in a field 700 miles almost

1468
00:50:23,670 --> 00:50:20,640
directly east

1469
00:50:27,190 --> 00:50:23,680
in pittsfield massachusetts

1470
00:50:29,430 --> 00:50:27,200
and supposedly you know he wakes up and

1471
00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:29,440
he says he has fresh clean clothes on he

1472
00:50:34,230 --> 00:50:31,680
has a brand new pair of running shoes on

1473
00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:34,240
there's a backpack sitting next to him

1474
00:50:37,829 --> 00:50:34,720
and it's

1475
00:50:41,270 --> 00:50:37,839
full of maps and he said he had a

1476
00:50:43,510 --> 00:50:41,280
wisconsin marathon running t-shirt on

1477
00:50:44,390 --> 00:50:43,520
so he i guess he hikes down into town

1478
00:50:48,470 --> 00:50:44,400
and

1479
00:50:50,790 --> 00:50:48,480
sees a newspaper that's the first time

1480
00:50:52,309 --> 00:50:50,800
he supposedly realizes that it's 14

1481
00:50:55,349 --> 00:50:52,319
months later

1482
00:50:56,630 --> 00:50:55,359
so he calls his sister and his sister

1483
00:50:58,790 --> 00:50:56,640
you know of course surprised to hear

1484
00:51:00,309 --> 00:50:58,800
from him but she's like you know dad

1485
00:51:02,950 --> 00:51:00,319
moved out that way since you've been

1486
00:51:05,910 --> 00:51:02,960
gone and he's only 50 miles away

1487
00:51:07,829 --> 00:51:05,920
so it's steven hitchhiked to his dad's

1488
00:51:10,309 --> 00:51:07,839
house and you know imagine the surprise

1489
00:51:13,750 --> 00:51:10,319
when steven's dad opens the door and

1490
00:51:16,470 --> 00:51:13,760
there he is and stephen

1491
00:51:18,630 --> 00:51:16,480
supposedly has no memory of this it was

1492
00:51:19,030 --> 00:51:18,640
a big media frenzy you know steven's

1493
00:51:21,030 --> 00:51:19,040
back

1494
00:51:23,190 --> 00:51:21,040
and everybody wanted to interview him he

1495
00:51:25,030 --> 00:51:23,200
did a couple short interviews and

1496
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:25,040
you know he said he doesn't know what

1497
00:51:29,190 --> 00:51:26,720
happened he said

1498
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:29,200
he feels like maybe he ran a marathon

1499
00:51:33,510 --> 00:51:31,040
due to his t-shirt

1500
00:51:35,510 --> 00:51:33,520
but he really doesn't know and they want

1501
00:51:37,430 --> 00:51:35,520
him to go see a psychiatrist and

1502
00:51:38,549 --> 00:51:37,440
he refused he's you know he said i know

1503
00:51:40,630 --> 00:51:38,559
nothing i'm not going to see a

1504
00:51:45,030 --> 00:51:40,640
psychiatrist

1505
00:51:47,990 --> 00:51:45,040
as a career

1506
00:51:48,630 --> 00:51:48,000
so did he ever figure out what happened

1507
00:52:17,589 --> 00:51:48,640
i

1508
00:52:19,589 --> 00:52:17,599
he wrote a couple books and see the last

1509
00:52:22,150 --> 00:52:19,599
one he wrote was called

1510
00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:22,160
god man in existence i believe it was

1511
00:52:27,270 --> 00:52:23,280
and

1512
00:52:28,870 --> 00:52:27,280
tough read man i was it was a little

1513
00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:28,880
much for me i expected to go in there

1514
00:52:30,950 --> 00:52:30,160
and read it and pull out a bunch of

1515
00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:30,960
information

1516
00:52:34,790 --> 00:52:33,359
and i got through maybe the first

1517
00:52:35,750 --> 00:52:34,800
chapter and i was having trouble

1518
00:52:37,589 --> 00:52:35,760
comprehending

1519
00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:37,599
what this guy was talking about it was

1520
00:52:41,109 --> 00:52:39,359
over my head

1521
00:52:43,109 --> 00:52:41,119
he would write a paragraph and then back

1522
00:52:44,950 --> 00:52:43,119
up the paragraph with mathematical

1523
00:52:47,990 --> 00:52:44,960
equations and

1524
00:52:49,990 --> 00:52:48,000
i just couldn't follow you know

1525
00:52:51,910 --> 00:52:50,000
i love it it sounds like someone who had

1526
00:52:53,829 --> 00:52:51,920
some kind of download experience but

1527
00:52:55,030 --> 00:52:53,839
i also wanted to try to fit one more

1528
00:52:57,270 --> 00:52:55,040
into this first

1529
00:52:59,990 --> 00:52:57,280
hour because it's quite similar but

1530
00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:00,000
there was a weird disappearance of a

1531
00:53:04,309 --> 00:53:03,599
fire chief in toronto that also seemed

1532
00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:04,319
to involve

1533
00:53:07,990 --> 00:53:06,880
skiing but when it comes to these weird

1534
00:53:10,069 --> 00:53:08,000
disappearances

1535
00:53:11,990 --> 00:53:10,079
especially someone who's been picked up

1536
00:53:14,069 --> 00:53:12,000
and put somewhere else

1537
00:53:15,270 --> 00:53:14,079
i kind of look at their profession and a

1538
00:53:16,870 --> 00:53:15,280
fire chief

1539
00:53:18,790 --> 00:53:16,880
i mean kind of knows his way around the

1540
00:53:19,349 --> 00:53:18,800
wilderness you would think but this is

1541
00:53:22,390 --> 00:53:19,359
pretty

1542
00:53:23,670 --> 00:53:22,400
mind-blowing tell us about this guy yeah

1543
00:53:25,510 --> 00:53:23,680
like you said man

1544
00:53:27,430 --> 00:53:25,520
the people this happens to that that's a

1545
00:53:27,829 --> 00:53:27,440
big part of it it'd be one thing if you

1546
00:53:29,430 --> 00:53:27,839
know

1547
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:29,440
somebody you couldn't have a lot of

1548
00:53:32,790 --> 00:53:30,960
confidence in but

1549
00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:32,800
stephen cubac you know he was a

1550
00:53:37,109 --> 00:53:34,640
supposedly a really respected college

1551
00:53:39,190 --> 00:53:37,119
student and this guy we're talking about

1552
00:53:41,030 --> 00:53:39,200
david philippids he was a chief

1553
00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:41,040
firefighter in toronto

1554
00:53:45,109 --> 00:53:43,200
and him and a couple of his firemen

1555
00:53:46,150 --> 00:53:45,119
buddies decided to take a little ski

1556
00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:46,160
trip

1557
00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:49,200
to new york and well the last

1558
00:53:52,390 --> 00:53:51,760
trip down the hill they all went to the

1559
00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:52,400
cars

1560
00:53:57,430 --> 00:53:56,160
david decided you know i i should take a

1561
00:54:00,150 --> 00:53:57,440
couple more pictures i didn't take

1562
00:54:02,390 --> 00:54:00,160
enough pictures to show my wife was here

1563
00:54:03,829 --> 00:54:02,400
so he's going to take this one quick run

1564
00:54:06,230 --> 00:54:03,839
take some pictures from the top and meet

1565
00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:06,240
his buddies back down by the car

1566
00:54:10,630 --> 00:54:09,359
well david never returned they seen him

1567
00:54:11,430 --> 00:54:10,640
go up they watched him go up the

1568
00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:11,440
chairlifts and

1569
00:54:16,230 --> 00:54:14,720
he just never came back down so you know

1570
00:54:17,510 --> 00:54:16,240
first they started looking for him and

1571
00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:17,520
they couldn't find him so then they got

1572
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:19,440
the ski patrol looking ski patrol

1573
00:54:22,710 --> 00:54:20,400
couldn't find him

1574
00:54:24,230 --> 00:54:22,720
so you know then they got the cops and

1575
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:24,240
after a day or two

1576
00:54:28,470 --> 00:54:26,240
shoot all his friends from toronto came

1577
00:54:30,230 --> 00:54:28,480
in as firefighter buddies his wife

1578
00:54:32,069 --> 00:54:30,240
everybody's combing the hill looking for

1579
00:54:33,990 --> 00:54:32,079
david and

1580
00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:34,000
eventually i think it was four or five

1581
00:54:38,309 --> 00:54:36,480
days later his wife gets a call while

1582
00:54:40,870 --> 00:54:38,319
she's at the mountain looking for him

1583
00:54:41,589 --> 00:54:40,880
and it's david he's like i'm at an

1584
00:54:44,069 --> 00:54:41,599
airport

1585
00:54:45,750 --> 00:54:44,079
i don't know where i am you know and

1586
00:54:47,829 --> 00:54:45,760
she's like well look at a sign so

1587
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:47,839
he looks at a sign he's he's in

1588
00:54:52,150 --> 00:54:50,160
sacramento airport

1589
00:54:54,230 --> 00:54:52,160
so she tells him you know we'll get some

1590
00:54:57,829 --> 00:54:54,240
help get the police or somebody

1591
00:54:59,589 --> 00:54:57,839
so he gets the police and people show up

1592
00:55:02,390 --> 00:54:59,599
at the airport and

1593
00:55:02,950 --> 00:55:02,400
david's standing there in his full ski

1594
00:55:05,030 --> 00:55:02,960
outfit

1595
00:55:07,109 --> 00:55:05,040
he's still got his ski helmet on he's

1596
00:55:08,150 --> 00:55:07,119
still got a ski goggles on top of his

1597
00:55:11,109 --> 00:55:08,160
helmet

1598
00:55:12,309 --> 00:55:11,119
he has no clue and they checked the

1599
00:55:15,349 --> 00:55:12,319
flight records

1600
00:55:15,750 --> 00:55:15,359
he didn't fly in they tried to find you

1601
00:55:17,349 --> 00:55:15,760
know

1602
00:55:19,109 --> 00:55:17,359
anyone picked him up hitchhiking they

1603
00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:19,119
couldn't find any threads that way

1604
00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:22,960
so you know once again just kind of

1605
00:55:26,150 --> 00:55:25,040
was here one moment across the country

1606
00:55:29,990 --> 00:55:26,160
another moment

1607
00:55:31,349 --> 00:55:30,000
no memory you know i'm honest i don't

1608
00:55:33,670 --> 00:55:31,359
know what to make of it

1609
00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:33,680
some people go straight to the strictly

1610
00:55:36,470 --> 00:55:34,559
paranormal

1611
00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:36,480
you know did they step through a vortex

1612
00:55:40,230 --> 00:55:37,920
here and end up there

1613
00:55:41,910 --> 00:55:40,240
or you can go completely opposite they

1614
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:41,920
just had some kind of conscious

1615
00:55:46,309 --> 00:55:44,160
breakdown and don't remember anything

1616
00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:46,319
and with all honesty i don't know what's

1617
00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:48,000
happening but

1618
00:55:52,069 --> 00:55:51,440
people are ending up other parts of the

1619
00:55:54,630 --> 00:55:52,079
country

1620
00:55:56,710 --> 00:55:54,640
and having no memory of it but in all

1621
00:55:59,829 --> 00:55:56,720
intense aspects still being

1622
00:56:01,190 --> 00:55:59,839
healthy and fine besides not having

1623
00:56:03,190 --> 00:56:01,200
memory they're still healthy

1624
00:56:04,870 --> 00:56:03,200
yeah you know stephen cubac he's 14

1625
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:04,880
months later he wakes up with clean

1626
00:56:07,829 --> 00:56:05,440
clothes

1627
00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:07,839
and healthy like they had to be

1628
00:56:13,349 --> 00:56:10,160
somewhere for 14 months

1629
00:56:14,710 --> 00:56:13,359
but i don't know where amazing amazing

1630
00:56:16,870 --> 00:56:14,720
yeah i guess they

1631
00:56:18,230 --> 00:56:16,880
met the runners of this human energy

1632
00:56:20,789 --> 00:56:18,240
farm

1633
00:56:22,230 --> 00:56:20,799
and escaped the slaughterhouse but i do

1634
00:56:23,750 --> 00:56:22,240
find this stuff really fascinating of

1635
00:56:26,470 --> 00:56:23,760
course the

1636
00:56:26,870 --> 00:56:26,480
great lakes triangle area has thousands

1637
00:56:29,990 --> 00:56:26,880
of

1638
00:56:32,150 --> 00:56:30,000
gone missing

1639
00:56:34,230 --> 00:56:32,160
and those are interesting because a

1640
00:56:35,109 --> 00:56:34,240
plane going missing obviously it's very

1641
00:56:37,910 --> 00:56:35,119
large

1642
00:56:39,829 --> 00:56:37,920
but it doesn't seem as unbelievable to

1643
00:56:40,630 --> 00:56:39,839
me for some reason as these people who

1644
00:56:42,630 --> 00:56:40,640
just

1645
00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:42,640
completely disappear and then reappear

1646
00:56:46,630 --> 00:56:44,880
somewhere else and have no memory of the

1647
00:56:48,150 --> 00:56:46,640
events or at least they

1648
00:56:49,829 --> 00:56:48,160
don't want to talk about what happened

1649
00:56:51,750 --> 00:56:49,839
because maybe it was way too weird to

1650
00:56:53,510 --> 00:56:51,760
even explain that's my hope i hope one

1651
00:56:55,270 --> 00:56:53,520
of these people you know write me

1652
00:56:56,710 --> 00:56:55,280
let me know i'm sympathetic to your

1653
00:56:58,309 --> 00:56:56,720
cause i want to know

1654
00:57:00,549 --> 00:56:58,319
what happened if you have any insight

1655
00:57:03,990 --> 00:57:00,559
but i've heard you talk about

1656
00:57:04,710 --> 00:57:04,000
a flux transfer event and i don't know

1657
00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:04,720
if this

1658
00:57:09,990 --> 00:57:07,680
relates at all to possibly what happens

1659
00:57:12,230 --> 00:57:10,000
to these people but it is an interesting

1660
00:57:14,950 --> 00:57:12,240
possibility and it does seem to be real

1661
00:57:18,069 --> 00:57:14,960
can you explain what that is

1662
00:57:21,349 --> 00:57:18,079
yeah absolutely what's definitely real

1663
00:57:23,990 --> 00:57:21,359
nasa back in 2008

1664
00:57:26,150 --> 00:57:24,000
reported that at that point they said

1665
00:57:29,829 --> 00:57:26,160
every eight minutes but

1666
00:57:32,870 --> 00:57:29,839
very often either way a magnetic

1667
00:57:33,349 --> 00:57:32,880
portal opens up between the sun and the

1668
00:57:35,430 --> 00:57:33,359
earth

1669
00:57:37,510 --> 00:57:35,440
they said every time the magnetic field

1670
00:57:38,309 --> 00:57:37,520
of the sun collides with the magnetic

1671
00:57:42,069 --> 00:57:38,319
field of the earth

1672
00:57:45,430 --> 00:57:42,079
a magnetic portal an uninterrupted path

1673
00:57:46,789 --> 00:57:45,440
will open up to the earth so i started

1674
00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:46,799
you know contemplating

1675
00:57:50,870 --> 00:57:49,040
i've been looking at all these magnetic

1676
00:57:52,950 --> 00:57:50,880
anomalies you know for years and all

1677
00:57:55,270 --> 00:57:52,960
these unusual circumstances

1678
00:57:57,030 --> 00:57:55,280
that surround them but you know where

1679
00:57:58,150 --> 00:57:57,040
the anomalies come from that's anomaly

1680
00:58:01,510 --> 00:57:58,160
in itself

1681
00:58:03,109 --> 00:58:01,520
so i wonder and i speculate could these

1682
00:58:05,190 --> 00:58:03,119
magnetic portals

1683
00:58:08,069 --> 00:58:05,200
that come from the sun to the earth

1684
00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:08,079
could they be focusing in certain places

1685
00:58:11,349 --> 00:58:10,319
that are creating these magnetic

1686
00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:11,359
anomalies and then

1687
00:58:14,870 --> 00:58:12,960
ancients would go there and they'd build

1688
00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:14,880
mounds or build stone circles on them

1689
00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:16,000
and you know they'd pick up this

1690
00:58:19,430 --> 00:58:17,440
information

1691
00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:19,440
and you know it's pure speculation on my

1692
00:58:23,589 --> 00:58:21,760
part but the science part of it

1693
00:58:25,030 --> 00:58:23,599
that's true that's not speculation

1694
00:58:27,430 --> 00:58:25,040
they're saying that

1695
00:58:28,630 --> 00:58:27,440
there are magnetic portals connecting to

1696
00:58:29,990 --> 00:58:28,640
the earth

1697
00:58:32,150 --> 00:58:30,000
and if you want to take it out even a

1698
00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:32,160
little deeper in space they're now

1699
00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:33,520
saying also that

1700
00:58:38,230 --> 00:58:36,400
the center of every galaxy our milky way

1701
00:58:41,109 --> 00:58:38,240
galaxy we have a black hole

1702
00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:41,119
and they're saying these black holes may

1703
00:58:45,190 --> 00:58:42,000
actually

1704
00:58:46,630 --> 00:58:45,200
have wormholes connecting to neighboring

1705
00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:46,640
stars

1706
00:58:51,270 --> 00:58:48,400
so if that's the case now we're talking

1707
00:58:53,109 --> 00:58:51,280
about a possible transportation from

1708
00:58:55,349 --> 00:58:53,119
a black hole or say the center of our

1709
00:58:58,390 --> 00:58:55,359
galaxy or any galaxy

1710
00:59:00,630 --> 00:58:58,400
to a neighboring star say our sun

1711
00:59:01,510 --> 00:59:00,640
which in turn is creating magnetic

1712
00:59:03,430 --> 00:59:01,520
portals

1713
00:59:04,630 --> 00:59:03,440
creating uninterrupted paths to our

1714
00:59:07,750 --> 00:59:04,640
earth

1715
00:59:09,829 --> 00:59:07,760
and possibly as i speculate creating

1716
00:59:11,829 --> 00:59:09,839
magnetic anomalies on earth were

1717
00:59:12,950 --> 00:59:11,839
ancients and now us we're going and

1718
00:59:15,510 --> 00:59:12,960
creating

1719
00:59:17,109 --> 00:59:15,520
stone circles and mounds and art and

1720
00:59:18,789 --> 00:59:17,119
architecture

1721
00:59:20,470 --> 00:59:18,799
and you know talking about we're having

1722
00:59:23,430 --> 00:59:20,480
these crazy experiences

1723
00:59:26,069 --> 00:59:23,440
yeah well you know it's just speculation

1724
00:59:28,150 --> 00:59:26,079
but could it be coming from that deep

1725
00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:28,160
well i think it possibly could we have

1726
00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:30,400
these hot spots which are often times

1727
00:59:34,470 --> 00:59:31,119
around

1728
00:59:37,270 --> 00:59:34,480
some sort of solar or celestial

1729
00:59:39,349 --> 00:59:37,280
markers like the woodhenge of cahokia or

1730
00:59:40,470 --> 00:59:39,359
that underwater henge at the bottom of

1731
00:59:42,950 --> 00:59:40,480
lake michigan

1732
00:59:44,870 --> 00:59:42,960
and i start to think that the ancients

1733
00:59:46,069 --> 00:59:44,880
could have possibly had some sort of

1734
00:59:49,349 --> 00:59:46,079
solar clock

1735
00:59:50,710 --> 00:59:49,359
to map out when these portals might open

1736
00:59:52,789 --> 00:59:50,720
i mean it matches a lot of their

1737
00:59:54,309 --> 00:59:52,799
mythology and the stuff they seem to be

1738
00:59:57,270 --> 00:59:54,319
preoccupied with

1739
00:59:58,789 --> 00:59:57,280
it's quite possible that these were

1740
01:00:01,829 --> 00:59:58,799
somewhat

1741
01:00:04,230 --> 01:00:01,839
sundials for these portal openings but

1742
01:00:06,309 --> 01:00:04,240
man this has been a lot of fun

1743
01:00:07,349 --> 01:00:06,319
anything else uh you want to tell people

1744
01:00:09,670 --> 01:00:07,359
about

1745
01:00:10,470 --> 01:00:09,680
your work the project great lakes

1746
01:00:13,510 --> 01:00:10,480
anything

1747
01:00:14,390 --> 01:00:13,520
coming up with that yes so the project

1748
01:00:19,109 --> 01:00:14,400
great lakes

1749
01:00:20,470 --> 01:00:19,119
i plan on spending a little time on it

1750
01:00:22,549 --> 01:00:20,480
like i said i got just

1751
01:00:24,789 --> 01:00:22,559
tons and tons of stories and i think

1752
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:24,799
there's a lot more connections to be

1753
01:00:26,710 --> 01:00:25,440
made and

1754
01:00:28,710 --> 01:00:26,720
you know you can hear three or four

1755
01:00:30,549 --> 01:00:28,720
stories and they sound

1756
01:00:32,710 --> 01:00:30,559
out there a little bit but when you hear

1757
01:00:35,190 --> 01:00:32,720
50 or 100 of them and

1758
01:00:36,710 --> 01:00:35,200
they all have these similar aspects you

1759
01:00:37,349 --> 01:00:36,720
know there's this connection and i

1760
01:00:39,670 --> 01:00:37,359
haven't

1761
01:00:41,109 --> 01:00:39,680
quite figured out the connection and i'd

1762
01:00:43,030 --> 01:00:41,119
like to spend some time

1763
01:00:44,870 --> 01:00:43,040
trying to figure it out at least a

1764
01:00:46,069 --> 01:00:44,880
little bit get a little bit better grasp

1765
01:00:48,150 --> 01:00:46,079
than i have on it

1766
01:00:49,670 --> 01:00:48,160
and maybe you know hopefully work with

1767
01:00:51,270 --> 01:00:49,680
some other people and

1768
01:00:52,950 --> 01:00:51,280
you know that seems to really bring out

1769
01:00:54,150 --> 01:00:52,960
a lot of information when we can work

1770
01:00:55,510 --> 01:00:54,160
together so

1771
01:00:57,430 --> 01:00:55,520
i'm hoping to do some of that in the

1772
01:01:00,230 --> 01:00:57,440
near future nice

1773
01:01:01,190 --> 01:01:00,240
nice very cool well this has been a

1774
01:01:03,510 --> 01:01:01,200
blast

1775
01:01:04,630 --> 01:01:03,520
remind people where they can look you up

1776
01:01:07,910 --> 01:01:04,640
yeah my website

1777
01:01:12,069 --> 01:01:07,920
is chadstemke.com my last name is

1778
01:01:15,670 --> 01:01:14,309
and i got some articles over there a

1779
01:01:17,430 --> 01:01:15,680
couple of books

1780
01:01:19,190 --> 01:01:17,440
i just like to share the information i'm

1781
01:01:19,750 --> 01:01:19,200
not worried about making any money

1782
01:01:21,510 --> 01:01:19,760
really just

1783
01:01:23,030 --> 01:01:21,520
like people pop over there and skim

1784
01:01:25,109 --> 01:01:23,040
through the articles and see if there's

1785
01:01:27,430 --> 01:01:25,119
anything that resonates with them

1786
01:01:28,150 --> 01:01:27,440
right on well thanks again had a lot of

1787
01:01:30,549 --> 01:01:28,160
fun

1788
01:01:31,349 --> 01:01:30,559
great work keep at it and take care out

1789
01:01:33,190 --> 01:01:31,359
there

1790
01:01:35,589 --> 01:01:33,200
thank you so much greg i appreciate the

1791
01:01:39,349 --> 01:01:35,599
conversation and opportunity and

1792
01:01:41,270 --> 01:01:39,359
thanks again

1793
01:01:43,109 --> 01:01:41,280
that is what i'm talking about people

1794
01:01:45,990 --> 01:01:43,119
some good old-fashioned

1795
01:01:46,870 --> 01:01:46,000
higher side fun portals stargates and

1796
01:01:49,910 --> 01:01:46,880
triangles

1797
01:01:52,390 --> 01:01:49,920
oh my this is an interview that kind of

1798
01:01:53,109 --> 01:01:52,400
fell in my lap because i went looking

1799
01:01:56,309 --> 01:01:53,119
for

1800
01:01:56,549 --> 01:01:56,319
an esoteric city symbols breakdown as i

1801
01:01:58,870 --> 01:01:56,559
am

1802
01:02:00,950 --> 01:01:58,880
such a fan of the ross bends and the

1803
01:02:03,029 --> 01:02:00,960
michael wands and the chris knowles's

1804
01:02:05,829 --> 01:02:03,039
and the corey daniels

1805
01:02:07,750 --> 01:02:05,839
and i wasn't really finding anything but

1806
01:02:10,309 --> 01:02:07,760
then my old pal freeman fly

1807
01:02:11,990 --> 01:02:10,319
asked me to be on his show and when i

1808
01:02:12,870 --> 01:02:12,000
was checking out his latest couple

1809
01:02:14,710 --> 01:02:12,880
episodes as

1810
01:02:16,950 --> 01:02:14,720
i tend to do when i'm gonna be a guest

1811
01:02:19,510 --> 01:02:16,960
somewhere there was chad

1812
01:02:20,549 --> 01:02:19,520
breaking down the detroit weirdness he's

1813
01:02:22,789 --> 01:02:20,559
uncovered

1814
01:02:23,910 --> 01:02:22,799
and as i dug more into his website i

1815
01:02:26,950 --> 01:02:23,920
thought yeah

1816
01:02:29,349 --> 01:02:26,960
this sort of satisfies that hunger

1817
01:02:31,430 --> 01:02:29,359
plus he's got some great stuff on the st

1818
01:02:33,430 --> 01:02:31,440
louis arch as well

1819
01:02:35,349 --> 01:02:33,440
i also like that when it comes to the

1820
01:02:38,390 --> 01:02:35,359
statues monuments

1821
01:02:40,950 --> 01:02:38,400
buildings etc he actually incorporates

1822
01:02:43,190 --> 01:02:40,960
the creators of these things and parses

1823
01:02:45,910 --> 01:02:43,200
through what they had to say about them

1824
01:02:46,870 --> 01:02:45,920
which i think is a really unexplored

1825
01:02:49,349 --> 01:02:46,880
area

1826
01:02:50,789 --> 01:02:49,359
how do these guys get these jobs how are

1827
01:02:53,109 --> 01:02:50,799
they connected

1828
01:02:55,190 --> 01:02:53,119
where do they get their knowledge from

1829
01:02:55,510 --> 01:02:55,200
because clearly they have some that they

1830
01:02:58,390 --> 01:02:55,520
play

1831
01:02:59,510 --> 01:02:58,400
coy with it's no small thing

1832
01:03:02,069 --> 01:02:59,520
logistically to

1833
01:03:03,270 --> 01:03:02,079
secure high value land in the middle of

1834
01:03:05,589 --> 01:03:03,280
a major city

1835
01:03:06,390 --> 01:03:05,599
and turn it over to one designer to

1836
01:03:09,750 --> 01:03:06,400
create his

1837
01:03:10,950 --> 01:03:09,760
master work with not just anyone can

1838
01:03:13,190 --> 01:03:10,960
arrange that

1839
01:03:14,390 --> 01:03:13,200
and clearly only a select few get that

1840
01:03:16,150 --> 01:03:14,400
privilege

1841
01:03:17,670 --> 01:03:16,160
we should know a little bit more about

1842
01:03:19,910 --> 01:03:17,680
it right

1843
01:03:21,990 --> 01:03:19,920
but chad really has a knack for finding

1844
01:03:24,630 --> 01:03:22,000
these esoterically designed places and

1845
01:03:26,549 --> 01:03:24,640
when i asked him to come on thc he

1846
01:03:29,270 --> 01:03:26,559
actually went looking in san diego and

1847
01:03:31,109 --> 01:03:29,280
found a very curious place

1848
01:03:33,029 --> 01:03:31,119
we didn't even get time to talk about it

1849
01:03:34,950 --> 01:03:33,039
but i wanted to give him credit for that

1850
01:03:35,349 --> 01:03:34,960
and tell you a bit about it in this here

1851
01:03:38,630 --> 01:03:35,359
wrap

1852
01:03:41,670 --> 01:03:38,640
up obviously these things are usually

1853
01:03:44,549 --> 01:03:41,680
best when you can see them so maybe

1854
01:03:45,990 --> 01:03:44,559
google faultline park in san diego if

1855
01:03:49,109 --> 01:03:46,000
you want a visual but

1856
01:03:51,190 --> 01:03:49,119
chad writes this living lenses

1857
01:03:53,750 --> 01:03:51,200
site-specific art installation

1858
01:03:56,150 --> 01:03:53,760
for the fault line park in downtown san

1859
01:03:59,430 --> 01:03:56,160
diego is titled fault whisper

1860
01:04:03,029 --> 01:03:59,440
created by po shu wang

1861
01:04:05,430 --> 01:04:03,039
another architect from the east

1862
01:04:06,309 --> 01:04:05,440
but this installation is marked by two

1863
01:04:09,190 --> 01:04:06,319
large scale

1864
01:04:10,069 --> 01:04:09,200
mirror finished stainless steel spheres

1865
01:04:12,549 --> 01:04:10,079
positioned on

1866
01:04:13,270 --> 01:04:12,559
opposite sides of the shallow fault

1867
01:04:15,829 --> 01:04:13,280
rupture

1868
01:04:18,549 --> 01:04:15,839
of the rose canyon fault system that

1869
01:04:20,710 --> 01:04:18,559
runs diagonally across the park

1870
01:04:22,870 --> 01:04:20,720
the west sphere is equipped with a

1871
01:04:25,029 --> 01:04:22,880
viewfinder through which park visitors

1872
01:04:27,349 --> 01:04:25,039
can see the east sphere

1873
01:04:30,630 --> 01:04:27,359
being exactly at the center of view at

1874
01:04:33,109 --> 01:04:30,640
the time of installation in 2015

1875
01:04:35,029 --> 01:04:33,119
any future fault movement will create an

1876
01:04:37,589 --> 01:04:35,039
offset along the sight line

1877
01:04:38,470 --> 01:04:37,599
and will be noticeable to the viewer an

1878
01:04:40,549 --> 01:04:38,480
accelerator

1879
01:04:41,990 --> 01:04:40,559
installed below the spheres deep into

1880
01:04:44,390 --> 01:04:42,000
the fault rupture

1881
01:04:45,029 --> 01:04:44,400
monitors the earth's movements in real

1882
01:04:46,950 --> 01:04:45,039
time

1883
01:04:49,109 --> 01:04:46,960
its movement and data stream is

1884
01:04:51,270 --> 01:04:49,119
processed into musical notes that are

1885
01:04:52,789 --> 01:04:51,280
gently broadcast from the west sphere

1886
01:04:55,349 --> 01:04:52,799
viewfinder

1887
01:04:57,510 --> 01:04:55,359
park visitors can scan the qr code near

1888
01:04:58,390 --> 01:04:57,520
the artwork and share it with friends to

1889
01:05:01,109 --> 01:04:58,400
eavesdrop

1890
01:05:01,670 --> 01:05:01,119
on the earth at the rupture thereby

1891
01:05:03,910 --> 01:05:01,680
creating

1892
01:05:05,910 --> 01:05:03,920
a remote intimacy that connects the

1893
01:05:09,109 --> 01:05:05,920
local fault line with the global

1894
01:05:10,069 --> 01:05:09,119
tectonic reality note that the stainless

1895
01:05:11,990 --> 01:05:10,079
steel orbs

1896
01:05:14,230 --> 01:05:12,000
are surrounded by symbolic

1897
01:05:15,510 --> 01:05:14,240
representations of ancient mounds

1898
01:05:17,349 --> 01:05:15,520
and they really are if you look at the

1899
01:05:20,230 --> 01:05:17,359
picture there's these really

1900
01:05:21,029 --> 01:05:20,240
tightly designed mounds they i mean

1901
01:05:23,589 --> 01:05:21,039
they're mounds

1902
01:05:24,789 --> 01:05:23,599
they look like mounds it's clearly an

1903
01:05:27,670 --> 01:05:24,799
allusion to

1904
01:05:29,190 --> 01:05:27,680
the mound builders i would say but also

1905
01:05:30,870 --> 01:05:29,200
there's this piece of playground

1906
01:05:32,309 --> 01:05:30,880
equipment in the foreground in which

1907
01:05:36,150 --> 01:05:32,319
children will spin

1908
01:05:38,870 --> 01:05:36,160
or swirl slash vortex around

1909
01:05:40,230 --> 01:05:38,880
this center pole while enjoying the park

1910
01:05:41,349 --> 01:05:40,240
and you can look at that and that

1911
01:05:44,789 --> 01:05:41,359
clearly

1912
01:05:46,309 --> 01:05:44,799
gives off very vortexy vibes it's an

1913
01:05:48,230 --> 01:05:46,319
interesting thing it could be a swing

1914
01:05:51,589 --> 01:05:48,240
why not a swing why something

1915
01:05:53,430 --> 01:05:51,599
that spins in this vortex motion kind of

1916
01:05:55,589 --> 01:05:53,440
curious right

1917
01:05:57,029 --> 01:05:55,599
and chad also notes that there is a

1918
01:05:58,950 --> 01:05:57,039
serpentine design

1919
01:06:00,069 --> 01:05:58,960
in the edge of the park that looks very

1920
01:06:02,470 --> 01:06:00,079
very close

1921
01:06:05,270 --> 01:06:02,480
to the serpent mound that most people

1922
01:06:07,349 --> 01:06:05,280
listening are probably well aware of

1923
01:06:09,190 --> 01:06:07,359
but it's an esoteric looking place that

1924
01:06:11,190 --> 01:06:09,200
i didn't know was there

1925
01:06:12,549 --> 01:06:11,200
and i appreciate chad doing a bit of

1926
01:06:14,150 --> 01:06:12,559
digging for me

1927
01:06:16,069 --> 01:06:14,160
i definitely plan to check it out the

1928
01:06:18,390 --> 01:06:16,079
next time i'm downtown

1929
01:06:20,630 --> 01:06:18,400
as long as it's not all roped off can't

1930
01:06:22,870 --> 01:06:20,640
be too sure these days

1931
01:06:24,710 --> 01:06:22,880
i apologize to chad for holding on to

1932
01:06:25,589 --> 01:06:24,720
this show for so long it's definitely

1933
01:06:28,069 --> 01:06:25,599
been

1934
01:06:29,029 --> 01:06:28,079
several weeks but i am glad i could put

1935
01:06:31,510 --> 01:06:29,039
this out

1936
01:06:32,870 --> 01:06:31,520
at a time when people are probably very

1937
01:06:36,549 --> 01:06:32,880
sick of hearing

1938
01:06:40,230 --> 01:06:36,559
about the election and the

1939
01:06:42,789 --> 01:06:40,240
covid protocols and just all that stuff

1940
01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:42,799
but another show in the can always happy

1941
01:06:47,270 --> 01:06:44,720
to highlight some good old-fashioned

1942
01:06:48,710 --> 01:06:47,280
mysterious disappearances

1943
01:06:50,710 --> 01:06:48,720
these ones are kind of like missing

1944
01:06:53,910 --> 01:06:50,720
4-1-1 but these are adults

1945
01:06:55,829 --> 01:06:53,920
who also reappeared probably the most

1946
01:06:57,910 --> 01:06:55,839
insane kind of story

1947
01:07:00,549 --> 01:06:57,920
we have and they don't want to talk i

1948
01:07:01,670 --> 01:07:00,559
just don't get it but if you like the

1949
01:07:03,430 --> 01:07:01,680
first hour today

1950
01:07:05,029 --> 01:07:03,440
you know we got more good stuff in the

1951
01:07:07,829 --> 01:07:05,039
second hour as always

1952
01:07:09,750 --> 01:07:07,839
today some of that stuff included

1953
01:07:10,710 --> 01:07:09,760
summoning spiritual teachers from the

1954
01:07:13,750 --> 01:07:10,720
other side

1955
01:07:16,950 --> 01:07:13,760
the us and canada's project magnet

1956
01:07:18,309 --> 01:07:16,960
the lake superior underwater anomaly the

1957
01:07:20,630 --> 01:07:18,319
michigan relics

1958
01:07:22,630 --> 01:07:20,640
curious statements from famous people

1959
01:07:23,510 --> 01:07:22,640
about detroit what was bowie talking

1960
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about you know

1961
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i'm curious i wonder and

1962
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uh we also talked about the woolly

1963
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mammoth rock and the new discovery

1964
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that uh obviously he talked about sign

1965
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up for plus

1966
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if you don't have a plus membership pick

1967
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one up you get the full

1968
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archive hundreds of hours you haven't

1969
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heard cancel anytime

1970
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something else i've been doing recently

1971
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if you follow me on twitter or instagram

1972
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is that i've been putting up these

1973
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higher side highlights little one minute

1974
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clips that are set to music

1975
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that are from the plus part of the show

1976
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so you can hear

1977
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a little bit more of thc than you

1978
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already have

1979
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i just put up one with sylvia ivanova

1980
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who you know from the new earth youtube

1981
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channel and one with whitney webb

1982
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so check those out too if you're doing

1983
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the social media thing

1984
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if not i don't blame you but with that

1985
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i'm getting out of here big thanks again

1986
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to chad and to you dear listeners

1987
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i've done my part your move portal place

1988
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planners esoteric engineers and

1989
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architects of strange

1990
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energy sucking structures your

1991
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[\h__\h] move the truth has been hidden

1992
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from me

1993
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didn't believe in myself

1994
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got lizard people on top of the world

1995
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and i wish it was somebody else

1996
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believe it or not the truth is out there

1997
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for

1998
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people who have the eyes to see

1999
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my favorite show makes me more aware

2000
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[Music]

2001
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thc

2002
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just watch the tv and obey

2003
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take some more pills when you're blue

2004
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or we'll break you out of the spell that

2005
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you're in

2006
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believe it or not the truth is

2007
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thc seeking the things that are true

2008
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[Music]

2009
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thc

2010
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[Applause]

2011
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is here for you

2012
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[Music]

2013
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believe it or not

2014
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[Music]

2015
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believe it or not

2016
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[Music]

2017
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my favorite show makes me more aware

2018
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who could it be

2019
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the higher side chats believe it or not

2020
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the truth who have is

2021
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eyes to see

2022
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my favorite show makes me more aware

2023
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who could it be

2024
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the higher side chess thc